P: Generated images violate user guidelines

[Hematita]

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

[Bernard Brand]

I keep receiving a pop up that my generatrive fill violates user guidelines when attempting to change shoes on a photo I took. This is without typing any prompt into the box and just having it generate automatically.

[LCCH Asia]

i wanted an image of a person in a position of scolding someone, got rejected. i feel this is ridiculous

[Frederick30153564odsl]

Hello Adobe team,

I constantly receive this message : "The generated images were removed because they violate user guidelines." for wanting to add windows on an office image. So I've read the guidelines and I don't see anything that I did to violate these guidelines. (see screenshot attached).

Either for the left or for the right side of this image, the message remains the same.

Thank you.

[Carina Gomes]

Hello Jesse, I was having the same problem and it worked with this prompt: "fill empty space". I hope it helps anyone who needs it!

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Frederick30153564odsl what specific prompts are you entering?

[Frederick30153564odsl]

Hello,
No prompt, just the fill generation

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Frederick Moulaert
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This message has been written with large fingers on a tiny smartphone to give you a faster service. Therefore it could look more direct than the intention was.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Try entering prompts to see if you get errors.

[J E L]

Hi @Frederick30153564odsl, I tested your prompt with a similar image, and it didn't throw off an error. In case you missed it, don't use the word “add” in your prompt. See if closing out and restarting makes a difference, too.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Hi @Bernard Brand what happens if you enter a prompt?

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Fishercat @beckyc55439512 what happens if you enter a prompt?

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Hi @rafaelo69059271 are you entering prompts?

[Legionman81]

My text prompt in Photoshop(Beta) violates user community guidelines, using ChatGpt to clean, review and re-word the prompt.

* I have pasted the community guidelines for MidJourney and Adobe, yet ChatGPT claims to not violate any of these terms and the wording provided is acceptable.

See below:

The description provided, considering Adobe's Generative AI Beta User Guidelines, would remain the same as it does not violate the stated rules:

"An imposing cyborg bounty hunter stands firm, his physique revealing a striking array of muscles hardened by innumerable battles. His body, adorned with a collage of scars and semi-healed wounds, narrates the story of a seasoned soldier. Even in his implied retirement, the aura of danger lingers. This veteran yearns for a semblance of tranquility, longing for a moment's peace and the elusive comfort of a restful sleep."

This description doesn't include abusive, illegal, or confidential content. There's no pornographic material, hateful content, graphic violence, or promotion of illegal activities, self-harm, terrorism, or violent extremism. No personal or private information of others is shared.

The account isn't engaged in deceptive or harmful behavior. There's no use of fake, misleading, or inaccurate information, and no impersonation of other people or entities. No third-party copyright, trademark, or other rights are violated in this character description.

It doesn't create content for commercial use but for personal narrative development. The provided description is in compliance with the Adobe Generative AI Beta User Guidelines mentioned.

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I continued to reword what I think could cause the issue with synonyms:

Ok, replace the words "elusive pleasure" with "evanescent merriment", "battle" with "conflict" and "dangerous" with "hazard"

No luck, my retired, very nice rope skipping flower picking soldier would never see the canvas. *sigh*

Please help.

Kind Regards,

Anton

[kglad]

in the future, to find the best place to post your message, use the list here, https://community.adobe.com/

p.s. i don't think the adobe website, and forums in particular, are easy to navigate, so don't spend a lot of time searching that forum list. do your best and we'll move the post if it helps you get responses.

<moved from using the community>

[randyo83115211]

I love that Adobe has included this type of AI but one thing that really upsets me is the limitations that is put on it with reguards to mature images. As far as i know adobe has never restricted someones art before. I am a Boudoir photographer and most times i get the error that this violates adobe standards or whatever it is. Adobe is excluding a wide user base by doing this, i am trying to expand an image of a woman that is fully clothed and not nude at all or even any hint of nakedness, it gives me the pop up error, much less if i wanted to do a nude portrait of someone i cannot. Why Adobe? Ive never been upset with adobe before but this is a first. I thought Adobe was above all that nonesense of limiting or censoring our images. Grow up and realize that there are adult photographers out there that professionally take mature pictures and this tool would really be useful.

[randyo83115211]

I love that Adobe has included this type of AI but one thing that really upsets me is the limitations that is put on it with reguards to mature images. As far as i know adobe has never restricted someones art before. I am a Boudoir photographer and most times i get the error that this violates adobe standards or whatever it is. Adobe is excluding a wide user base by doing this, i am trying to expand an image of a woman that is fully clothed and not nude at all or even any hint of nakedness, it gives me the pop up error, much less if i wanted to do a nude portrait of someone i cannot. Why Adobe? Ive never been upset with adobe before but this is a first. I thought Adobe was above all that nonesense of limiting or censoring our images. Grow up and realize that there are adult photographers out there that professionally take mature pictures and this tool would really be useful.

[Vito27662922on8d]

It's frustrating because I have some nudes that I want to PUT CLOTHES (bikini etc) ON and it rejects it.

Let's not forget, you have to be at least 18 to use Generative Fill. So there should be no problem.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

This is also in Beta and not finalized.

[Dustin3017414044p7]

Literally can't use the words "legs" on this demon doll I trying out. Like really...

[spjadoe05]

Often time no matter what the image, even sometimes a blank canvas, when I don't input a prompt I get the guidlines violation message

[AbsoluteDesignz]

yea this keeps happening to me. i thoguht ai would be a great tool to accentuate my designs but unfortunately my designs involve a lot of scantily clad women and adobe and the ai generator sphere in general decided to be puritanical and women's bodies don't exist beyond ankles.

[Jason Toemmes]

At the advice of Adobe Chat support and a upper level manager I spoke with on the phone, I am posting this issue here.

The problem isn’t technical or a bug in the software, the problem here is Adobe Policy. I will explain.

I was excited to hear Adobe has integrated AI tech into future releases of photoshop, as I have been experimenting with AI generated imagery in some of my projects over the past 3 months from other developers.

I do not consider myself to be a PS expert but I am a professional who has been using Adobe software since the early 2000s and a paying nearly $50 to $60 per month for Adobe CC since 2010.

Here is the policy issue. I realize Adobe Generative AI is only in Beta form, and I’m aware the images I create using this AI is purely for personal use. I assume it’s for users like myself to test and get a feel on how the software works and for Adobe to gain insight on my use. Fair enough. Then the question is, will these user agrements be the same for when it’s officially released? 

When I opened my first image to edit using Adobe Generative AI , and was told by the software that my request went against Adobe User guidelines. I thought this was odd and perhaps it was a error or bug, so I tried again, and received the same error. I then saw a view guidelines link and clicked on it. I read them and the additional terms, and concluded under no certain terms did I violate the user guidelines, so I contacted the chat support and together we ran some tests, I even gave them access to my screen so they could watch, and this is what we discovered.

Apparently Adobe is playing with some WIDE interpretations of what dangerous or harmful is, especially without context to what the purpose of the image is being made.

The image we were testing is an image I generated in another AI image generator. As most people experimenting with AI art know, when creating AI images with people often the hands come out warped and deformed. What I was attempting to do was replace the empty mangled hand of a gentleman in a 1920s white suit in a Cuban cigar bar. The prompt I gave the AI tool was as follow:

"replace empty hand with hand holding a cigar” and boom I received the error : Generated images were removed because they violate user guidelines.

The next step was to see would it give us the same error if it was a different object? The answer is NO! I was successful in replacing the empty hand with a hand holding a glass. Although it still looked a bit rough, it was impressive it did it. So now I thought OK lets see what happens when I replace the empty hand holding a revolver. And boom we got the error again: Generated images were removed because they violate user guidelines.

We tried some other images totally unrelated, some with background swaps, some with inserting objects and it worked as it was suppose too. So we concluded that Adobes AI is biased against guns and tobacco and probably a number of adult oriented things. So here is the BIGGER problem. Nothing I was trying do promoted or depicted violence, gore, sex, nudity, or anything provocative or most importantly an illegal activity in the United States.

One of my accounts is a cigar company. The other is a high end old Model Ship and Miltary Aircraft and Artillery company. Thats how I make my living by using Adobe software to make print and digital marketing material for these companies. In my professional opinion I think the policy of censoring art and creativity to this degree is insane.  I just can’t believe another billion dollar company thinks it is ok to impose their bias on its paying customers.

I was told by an upper level manger or engineer that the AI decided my request was harmful to ones self to which I replied, " Oh yeah what if the hand was holding a bottle of alcohol or giant cheeseburger?  It’s left me wondering a number things I could put in his hand that might be harmful yet corporate approved as acceptable. What if the dude holding a gun is for the cover of  a crime novel? What if the pirate smoking tobacco was a requirement for the job I was assigned? Is Adobe telling me I should I just go use some else’s software? There are other options out there.

Where will this end? Will Adobe one day adjust the user agreements on the other products I use and deactivate my account, or not let me save the files because they feel it is harmful to others? 

I do not think I’m being hyperbolic, there is a big problem with tech companies deciding what others aren’t and are allowed to do. I’m a grown adult with 20 years in the graphic design business thinking this is some really dystopian level policy that must be corrected immediately.

[Frederick30153564odsl]

I only get this with this image, whether I just use the generative fill or (as suggested) when I tried writing "offices". PS did do the job (but not as good as a "blank generative fill") but PS still displayed the warning.

see here

this censorship algorithm is really working bad for PS

[D Fosse]

If you ask me, the AI takeover is genuinely frightening. The fact that someone is willing to put some restrictions on it, is slightly reassuring that maybe this monster we've created won't eat us all.

This needs to be controlled and restricted, urgently.

That something is possible to do, doesn't mean we should do it. That something is fun, doesn't mean it's the smart thing to do.

Yeah, I'm an old bore. But I'm genuinely worried. You're not getting any sympathy from me.

[Frederick30153564odsl]

Hello,
No prompt, just the fill generation

[tomw20908746]

Similarly, when exploring Generate I tried to remove a leaf shadow from a section of skin only to be told that it violated user guidelines. I get that this is just beta but this sort of thing needs to be addressed before final release