P: Healing and Spot Healing Brush Lag

[Stephen Newport]

In most recent 2018 update, healing and spot healing brush have become much less responsive, sometimes taking multiple seconds after completion of stroke to affect the image.

Late 2016 Macbook, up to date OS and Software

I've done the regular things like turning off OpenCL and changing other performance options... no change.
GIF framerate is sped up 2x 

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[FeedbackCommunityMember]

how to disable brush smoothing?

[paulFinchley]

.dng file (from Canon 5D3) opened from Lightroom i.e. no layers. I add a single transparent new layer above to do healing. The first heals are ok for a short while then it just gets very slow as reported by others. Have to close and re launch Ps every few minutes to get the speed back. It used to be as close as possible to real time but now it's worse than Lightroom. Using Wacom on MacOs Sierra

[paulFinchley]

Definitely helps to have smoothing turned off i.e. at 0 but I found I have to set the brush smoothing to zero and then close Ps and reopen. Just changing the smoothing to zero on the brush and going back to the healing brush whilst still in an image had no effect.

By the way has anyone else lost the ability to use the space bar to get the hand tool to quickly move the document?

[rogéz]

have the exact same situation on Win10 with Intell 8core, 32gb ram and nvidia 1060 6gb. The bug is in the (Spot) Healing Brush tool, the Patch tool works perfectly like with PS18.

[rogéz]

16bit, RGB, 25MPix, mouse.
Lag starting after around 25 clicks (+3000Mb of RAM / working set).
GPU peak to 25% during each lag
CPU peak to 30% during each lag

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[poshqueen]

This is happening to me too, I've called tech support twice, I hope Adobe comes up with a solution quick because it's costing many of us time and money for this insane lag, restarting PS over and over again is a lame option and not realistic. Tech support told me to reset brush settings to default but this is a pain too that doesn't always work. I use a Wacom Cintiq 13 touch tablet but it does the lag even without the tablet.

I'm about to go back to 2017 version because this one should never have been released with these glitches. Next time they should have full time professional retouchers and artist use the products before they release them. It would have been discovered in minutes...

[JodyLand]

Hi Adam, I did this about an hour ago (Reset Prefs on Quit) and so far so good

[JodyLand]

Update, still working well after 3+ hours 🙂

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Turn off smoothing and you should be good. Seemed to work for a lot of people now.

[Bkort]

Yes, still slow

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Same Issue here with the healing brushes (Windows10, 16GB RAM, i7). Using spot healing brush it lags over 5 spots behind. It looks like it is working better for a short period of time after restarting Photoshop. The memory usage is going fast past the 6.5GB with only one 36MP file on 16 bits and only one empty layer for healing ( file size on the lower left is about 250MB.

[Stephen Newport]

Have you tried turning smoothing off?

[Bkort]

I have, does not matter

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Just to add to this.  Also having this lag problem BUT only with the legacy healing brush enabled.  Without legacy its working just fine, however I dont like working with that brush.

i7-7700k, 64gb, PC

[Stephen Newport]

Have you tried bringing the slider to 0 and turning it off in the brush panel?

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Thanks. So far so good here too.

[erichsaide]

Having same issue with my iMac and  2017 Mac Book Pro. Healing brush is useless.. 

[vertizonphoto1]

Same thing here. Mine happens immediately. I get the lag and the lines. I tried resetting to "use the legacy algorithm" for healing brush, but that almost made it worse. Beta testing during my workday is a hassle. 

[vertizonphoto1]

TRashed preferences and it's gone for now. But so are all of my preferences. Bummer of a solution. 

[vertizonphoto1]

I don't see it when the healing brush is active either...? 

[vertizonphoto1]

In addition to the lag, I'm getting the line between points as well. Anyone else seeing this? I've seen another thread on this but it should be mentioned here as well. So far, trashing my preferences seems to have fixed the lag, but what a hassle...

[IvanMladenov]

even when I turn brush smoothing off, and restart PS or whole system, lag is present after cca 1hour of work again 😕 

[IvanMladenov]

turning off smothing doesn't work for ever......after cca 1hour of work is there a lag again 😞 

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I have this annoying healing brush lag too. Hope Adobe will fix it soon, it is real trouble now especially when editing large files with smart objects.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Same problem and none of the fixes suggested help. Have smoothing at zero, etc. I either need to reinstall 2017 (not an option on the CC menu) or Adobe needs to fix this ASAP. I have a major, zero delays tolerated project series in one week. Right now, the delays are so bad that effecively, the tools don't exist for me.


There is a work around for those who are desperate (like me). Use split frequency with the clone stamp on the high layer (I am not having issues with the clone stamp). But it is very annoying to have to use this and bloat the file for images that would be fixed just as well with a few healing brush clicks.