Adobe falling behind in AI Editing? [FaceApp]

[Lars128794r43]

Hey everyone,

I'm a long-time Adobe user and I've been thinking:  Why is there still no quick AI-based photo editing tool similar to FaceApp in PhotoShop? FaceApp has been a game-changer for quick, user-friendly aging, de-aging, digital makeup, etc. It's been around for over 6 years, setting new standards. So, I'm curious – why hasn't Adobe introduced something similar or better? 

I expect Adobe to be at the forefront of AI advances but it looks like they are falling behind. The Neural filters are rather disappointing and useless in comparison to the ease of use and consistency of FaceApp. Why not build on the GAN-based technology that allows FaceApp to do quick and seamless AI editing and improve it by offering automated batch-editing, improved side-angles, higher resolution, and add filters for editing more than just the face? 

This is crucial for me (and I guess many others) to decide if we should stick with Adobe. Looking forward to any insights or updates on Adobe's plans in embracing AI technology for creative work. BTW the customer service here is terrible. The chat bot is really dumb, and there is no email, phone number or real person to talk to. 

Cheers, Lars

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[c.pfaffenbichler]

As for customer care:

Click the speechbubble-icon (bottom right) and type »agent« to get in contact with a human person. 

https://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html

As for Adobe’s plans regarding AI-feature implementation: 

»Those who know don’t say and those who say don’t know.« 

Adobe personnel is subject to NDAs (also members of exclusive pre-release testing) and »simlpe« users cannot really know what is going on at Adobe … 

[jane-e]

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By @Lars128794r43

I am not a lawyer, but my guess is that it would be illegal for Adobe to build on another company's software. Most if not all software companies protect their intellectual property.

https://www.faceapp.com/en/terms/

Can you tell us how your question applies to all seven topics that you marked? We can untag them for you.

Jane

[jane-e]

Duplicate post from OP in After Effects:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/after-effects-discussions/adobe-falling-behind-in-ai-video-editing-fa...

Jane

[c.pfaffenbichler]

That the current implementation of Generative Fill in Photoshop leaves something to be desired with its 1024px x 1024px limit seems indesputable. 

But if there are plans to change that is unknowable for the general public until Adobe makes an announcement on the issue. 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@c.pfaffenbichler new limits are 2000 x 2000 px. 1024 was when it was in pre-release/beta.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Thanks, @Kevin Stohlmeyer ! 

I haven’t been following the info closely enough apparently! 

But … 2000px x 2000px still does not seem satisfactory to me as I work for print a lot. 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Currently it is limited to prevent surges in resources from the AI - you can use Gen Fill in sections for larger images, but if you exceed the 2000 px limit it still runs but the quality drops - much like resampling. You can imagine without a "speed limit" users would totally try to push the limits and crash the service.

[benjamin_0535]

Hi Lars,

Excellent points, and it really is astonishing that to this day, Adobe has not been able to create something smooth and user-friendly with AI, like FaceApp, and other apps. It feels like the Neural Filters are somewhat clumsy next to what is possible using GAN technology. Automated batch editing and more features would without a doubt level up their offering. And honestly, I feel you with the customer service-it really grinds my gears when it is not up to par. Let's hope Adobe steps up their game soon!

Cheers!

[Lumigraphics]

Many of us not only don't want these toy AI features, we find them intrusive and undesirable and frankly they often look terrible. Leave that stuff to plugins and consumer apps, and let Photoshop remain a pro-focused app.

[Jente Willems Photography]

I am with Lars on this one.
Why doesn't Adobe add these plug-ins to the Photoshop software?

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Jente Willems Photography misplaced angst - its up to the software developers (like Face App) to create the plugins, not Photoshop's responsibility.