Generative fill get worse and worse

[Pawel287536848jwq]

Hello. Is it just my impression or are the images generated by both Adobe Firefly and Generative Fill in Photoshop really so pathetic and of poor quality that they cannot be used? In Photoshop you can't even change clothes using generative fill and if you can, it's far from what you wanted. The generated images are much worse than the initial Beta version of Photoshop.

[Monika Gause]

Can you perhaps show examples of that?

[Pawel287536848jwq]

Thanks for answer. Clearly you dont read properly posts if you cant see example already stated in my post. Clothes doesnt change (man with suit as a oryginal-try to change to white t-shirt) final photo guy with slighty different suit.

Photo of branches try to add squirell , generative fill add bird without head. Photo of my son wearing cap,try to change cap to long hair example of this below. Honestly its too many examples to write here

[Monika Gause]

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@Pawel287536848jwq  schrieb:

Thanks for answer. Clearly you dont read properly posts if you cant see example already stated in my post.

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Oh, thank you very much. This is a community forum with 95% of people being not even staff.

Examples about visual things need to be seen. 

[Pawel287536848jwq]

Thanks.

Any ideas or anyone else mention about similar problems (faults,etc).

[CMass]

@Pawel287536848jwq  Thank you for reaching out and starting a discussion on the community. As a standard practice, we usually ask for visual examples of what you're encountering, such as screenshots, videos, or files. Thank you, @Monika Gause for requesting this. 

I will share the image you provided with the team, but I need more context. 

1. Was this done in Photoshop or Firefly? 
2. What was your prompt? 
3. What makes the results poor quality? 

In Firefly we also have a mechanism to share feedback directly by clicking on the three dots of the generated image. 

[Pawel287536848jwq]

Thank you for respond.

1. It was done in Photoshop updated to latest version, 25.2

2.My prompt was simple same as before. Just using quick selection tool of the area to be changed (suit ) and state " white suit, yellow suit"

3. This question is a bit odd. Is like when you go to doctor and doctor asking you about case of your illnes.

I got new 3 examples. Photo from Freepik website of man wear suit.

Number 1 is a breaching most rules from Adobe !! Adobe implement guidelines for prompts and when my prompt was "white suit" i got this. In this case, Adobe is insulting me, so who is breaching guidelines !!!

[Pawel287536848jwq]

Number 4 photo is quick try in Adobe firefly. Compared to the oryginall.

[CMass]

@Pawel287536848jwq the team is going to look into the issue, and they requested the following: 

• The PSD of the edited image with the saved selection of the area. Here is an article on how to save a selection:https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/saving-selections-alpha-channel-masks.html
• The prompt or prompts you used. 

I'm also moving your post to the Photoshop Beta Bugs since this is a Photoshop Beta issue. 

[Pawel287536848jwq]

All the issues appear in main Photoshop not in a Beta version so im not sure why its moved to Photoshop Beta. Whoever use main version of Photoshop can have same issue.

[CMass]

Thank you for the clarification. Moving to Photoshop Bugs

[OMNiArt]

I agree. The Beta version was so much better. Generative fill is becoming useless to me. And now we have a generative credit cap started a couple weeks ago. Since that became a thing. I haven't produced one generative fill I could use. Wasted credits. Too bad, it was excellent last Fall.

[Pawel287536848jwq]

It's not fair to charge for something that doesn't work properly. Wasting credits just because you hope that one time you will get the desired effect is nonsense. Additionally, Adobe spying on customers is total nonsense and disrespect for the customer!!

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Additionally, Adobe spying on customers is total nonsense and disrespect for the customer!!

Have you read this 

https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/06/06/clarification-adobe-terms-of-use

yet or do you rely on alarmist … on the web? 

[Pawel287536848jwq]

My negative feelings are based on dozens of films and opinions from artists and creators, so don't tell me nonsense. I paid for the program and what I use it for is not Adobe's  interest. I don't want to share anything I create with Adobe, whatever it is.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Dozens of films by who? 

How well informed are the creators of those films actually? 

Please read this: 

https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/06/10/updating-adobes-terms-of-use

I don't want to share anything I create with Adobe, whatever it is.

Then don’t, it is up to you. 

You don’t have to use Remove Background, Cloud Storagse, CC Libraries, Generative Fill, … and instead work exclusively locally. 

[Pawel287536848jwq]

If I edit photos of my child's bath, I don't want to, I repeat, I don't want to!! no third person to look at it and give an opinion on whether it is a legal photo or not because it is my child. So stop with your defensive posts and get on with your life

[c.pfaffenbichler]

If I edit photos of my child's bath, I don't want to, I repeat, I don't want to!! no third person to look at it and give an opinion on whether it is a legal photo or not because it is my child. So stop with your defensive posts and get on with your life

By @Pawel287536848jwq

And again: Please read this: 

https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/06/10/updating-adobes-terms-of-use

[Pawel287536848jwq]

so the fact that people are canceling subscriptions and the Department of Justice Consumer Protection Agency has filed a lawsuit against Adobe is also a fantasy?

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Are you referring to the Department of Justice Consumer Protection Agency’s lawsuit about »hidden fees«? 

What does people abandoning Adobe prove in your mind? 

[AxelMatt]

If I edit photos of my child's bath, I don't want to, I repeat, I don't want to!! no third person to look at it ...

By @Pawel287536848jwq

I understand your point of view and can appreciate that this is a very private photo.

But on the other hand, you also have to realize that neither we nor Adobe can offer any help without appropriate examples.

Do you have another picture without any private content which shows the problem that you have?

If yes, please post this here so we can see what's the issue. You have to cooperate with Adobe so that there can be a solution.

[bernardwerner]

Generative fill is not replicating the texture or resolution of the original. Attached is a 100% image of relatively calm water. Other attempts have included foliage from other parts of the image, what appears to be land, and other unidentifiable artifacts-- even in areas that were not in the selected region.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Keep in mind: 1024px x 1024px. 

[Dominika2520361879ru]

This post has been created long time ago and now the things atre going just downhill. The gen AI (beta) is getting worse and worse- can't even perferom simple tasks. No idea what is happenig but its extremely frustrating. 

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Please read this (in particular the section titled "Supply pertinent information for more timely and effective answers”):
https://community.adobe.com/t5/using-the-community/community-how-to-guide-tips-amp-best-practices/td...

»is getting worse and worse« seems like a fairly useless description, please give meaningful examples and post screenshots to illustrate.