Photoshop 6 won't run on Windows 10 on new computer

[cha509]

I just installed a new PC that runs Windows 10. My old computer also used 10. My photoshop 6 ran fine on my old computer and I reloaded my Photoshop 6 disc to the new computer without problem. However, it will not run. I tried to run it as administrator as suggested, but it still won't run.

[Mylenium]

You are likely going to need some legacy component like DirectX 9 or the older version of the Windows installer. Check the Microsoft web site. They are offering respective downloads.

Mylenium

[Jeff Arola]

Photoshop 6 from 2001?

Any error messages when you try to run ps 6?

How much free space is on your drive?

[sirpa1]

Hello, I face exactly the same problem. After upadte of Windows 10 functions, PSP does not want to start. The error message says: Unable to continue becauseof hardwareor system error. Sorry, but this error is unrecoverable.
Error appears just when the fonts are being initialized.

Is there any error log, which says what is the reason for an error?

[davescm]

PSP ? What exact application and version are you using?

[rj1_rj1]

I get "Unable to continue because of a hardware or system error.  Sorry, but this error is unrecoverable" during the splash screen starting PS 6.0.1 from 2001 on Windows 10 home.  Exact same symptoms; it ran fine on this computer for a year, but stopped right after a Windows update on July 30 2020.  I don't know a fix.  I blame Bill Gates.

[rj1_rj1]

I tried uninstalling recent Windows updates as much as allowed, reboot, did not help.

I uninstalled Photoshop 6.0.1 and reintalled it.  PS opened the first time after that, but after closing it would not open again.  I blame Bill.

[Alain5FA8]

I get "Unable to continue because of a hardware or system error.  Sorry, but this error is unrecoverable" during the splash screen starting PS 6.0.1 from 2001 on Windows 10 home.  Exact same symptoms; it ran fine on this computer for a year, but stopped right after a Windows update on July 30 2020.  I don't know a fix.  

I have identically the same issue, after the update on Windows 10. ;(

[JJMack]

CS6 runs fine on Windows 10. PS 6 is very old and may not be able to handle the large size disk we user these days. If you tried  windows 10 make older apps or programs compatible  and could not get it to work.  Try creating small Disk Partitions and install PS 6 in one see if it will run. Parts of PS 6 will still be install on you boot drive.

[Ray5FBD]

Similarly, I've been using Photoshop 6 since about 2002.  Pissed me off when Windows 10 ver 2004 wouldn't allow it to work.  Finally got it to work using compatibility mode set to Windows 95.  However, it then keeps asking if you want to allow the program to make changes to hard drive.  There does not appear to be any solution to this other than turning off that Windows feature completely. Good luck.

[Nancy OShea]

Photoshop 6 from 2001 was never intended to be used on modern computers.  Most software has an expected shelf-life of 3-5 years after which it needs to be replaced.  I think it's fair to say you got way more than your money's worth out of it.  It's time to find new software.

MODERN OPTIONS:
Photoshop Elements 2020 (approx $100, no subscription needed).  It doesn't have all the bells & whistles of Photoshop CC, but it's a major improvment over PS6.
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[JJMack]

While CS6 may report its running on Windows 8 not Windows 10.  I find CS6 runs on windows 10 better than Photoshop 2020 21.2.2 which has Pen support issues.  Be sure all Cs6 Updates and ACR 91.1 are installed  and  that Windows and your device drivers are up to date.  You need to Configure Windows, Pen Support and Photoshop to work together.   Here Is what my Windows 10,  CS6  and Pen setting are.

I Did not have to use any Windows 10 compatibility options to get CS6 to run. It runs fine. However, on my Machine with my High resolution 4K display that has a 185PPI resolution I would need to force Windows 10 Display scaling onto Photoshop  CS6. If I wanted to use Photoshop UI on the 4k Display.  So I keep Photoshop UI on my 100PPI displays and Edit Images  in floating windows on the 4k Display. The only Photoshop UI elements on the display are the Image window frame information and image rulers.

My computer is not the newest tech still it ramming the latest Windows 10 and CS6 runs great. 

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Required plug-ins:

3D Studio 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
Accented Edges 13.0
Adaptive Wide Angle 13.0
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CompuServe GIF 13.0
Conté Crayon 13.0
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Kurtosis 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
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Mezzotint 13.0
Minimum 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
MMXCore Routines 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
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PCX 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
Photocopy 13.0
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Pixar 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
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PNG 13.0
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Range 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
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Reticulation 13.0
Ripple 13.0
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ScriptingSupport 13.1.2
Shear 13.0
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Standard Deviation 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
STL 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
Sumi-e 13.0
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Targa 13.0
Texturizer 13.0
Tiles 13.0
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Twirl 13.0
Underpainting 13.0
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Variance 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
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Wave 13.0
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WIA Support 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
Wind 13.0
Wireless Bitmap 13.1.2 (13.1.2 20130105.r.224 2013/01/05:23:00:00)
ZigZag 13.0

Optional and third party plug-ins:

CUR (Windows Cursor) NO VERSION
DDS 0.6
Face Control II 2.00
Fine Touch 3.25
GREYCstoration NO VERSION
ICO Windows Icon/Favicon NO VERSION
Import from FastPictureViewer Codec Pack 3.8.0.96
Lazy Nezumi Pro 20.05.15.0128
Luce NO VERSION
Reduce Noise v8 8.3.7.0
Saturation EQU 19.12
ScriptListener 13.0
SGI RGB 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)
Sharplet 1.56
WebP Lossless NO VERSION
WebP NO VERSION
Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE
Flash:
SVG Layers
Mini Bridge
Kuler
Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

Now that I have the Creative Cloud it seem I get new bugs regularly but I can count on CS6....

[rodger5C11]

I have now lost years of work which I saved as photoshop files using adobe 6 .I cannot afford to lose this .HELP

[D Fosse]

You haven't lost anything. If you saved them from Photoshop they are where you saved them, on your hard drive. There is nothing "in" Photoshop.

[davescm]

Photoshop CC v22 will open files created in Photoshop 6 so nothing is lost (unless you have deleted them from your hard drive but that has nothing to do with Photoshop).

Dave

[rodger5C11]

Thank you so much for replying so quickly. Unfortunatly as a complete novice using it for my designs I did so much artwork I downloaded them onto cds as photoshop psd files. I have 150 dics averaging 10-20 designs on each!! If any of my friends had adobe shop I suppose I could use theirs and convert them from photoshop psd files to something else tiffs maybe....however non of my friends have.Any suggestions would be very helpful

[D Fosse]

So you want some other software to work on your psds. That's really outside the scope of this forum.

A "photography plan" subscription will cost you about $10 a month. That gives you access to the latest versions of Photoshop and Lightroom.

[Nancy OShea]

@rodger5C11,

Adobe Photoshop Elements can edit layered PSD files.  PSE costs under $100 and does NOT require an annual subscription. 

ADOBE PHOTOSHOP ELEMENTS 2021

If you all you want is a basic file converter, look at IrfanView for Win only or one of these other apps:

How to Open (or Convert) a Photoshop File If You Don’t Have Photoshop

[JJMack]

You would be better off with Photoshop elements 2021 then Photoshop 6 it is that old. Photoshop 22 is current PSE may be better than 22.

[rodger5C11]

thank you nancy i do need basic as I'm 73 and not very succesful artist so on a limited budget.Years ago I went to a computer group and the instructor had photoshop 6 so thought Id give it a try. I'm self taught so only know the basics (3 quarters of the programme I have no idea how to use) so thank you for showing me a way of opening the files on my cds especially as income is tight lol

[Nancy OShea]

You're welcome, Roger.  Glad to be of help.

[Ammo5E36]

There is an arrogance in the software community that leaves customers with a bitter taste.  "Most software has an expected shelf life of 3-5 years."   Is that life on the shelf, or life working on a computer?  Hmmm?  And why the planned obsolescence, is that a profit-making plan for MS and Adobe and others, forcing customers to replace perfectly good software by intentionally crippling the underlying system software?   

Yes I want to use Office 10 from 2002, and Photoshop 6 from the same era.  In case you youngsters haven't noticed, back when the net was pure html with photos of limited size and few addies, pages would load fairly fast even with a 14.4 or 56k modem.  Today, with all the scripts and addies and graphics and popups everywhere on the screen, the computers of today with blindingly faster chips and operating systems and cable or fiberop connections often work as slow or slower than the old dial-up computers from the 90s.  Worst of all, with the top bottom and sides of the screen taken up by 'stuff' the person who wants to read an article must read it through a thin slit that runs through the middle of the screen.  That is not progress.

I guess it is only to be expected.  I mean, designers and jeans manufacturers convinced people that having worn out, torn jeans was a fashion statement, so when the worn-out tear rips all the way across they will need to be replaced with another pair of worn out and torn jeans - which BTW command a higher rice than the genuinely new jeans.  In pharmaceuticals, the "Purple Pill" went generic two or three times, but just as it did the makers revealed a tiny upgrade and continued to sell a Purple Pill at high prices, even while the 'old' purple pill was still just as efficatious.  So convincing people that paying a monthly fee for software was a logical step, and has enriched the industry so much that those at the top can't spend it all in their lfetime and must work hard trying to give it away while they are alive.

BTW, I recall that stupid and annoying 'Clippy' paperclip 'helper' in Windows back in the day.  You guys are still creating Clippies with every ugrade, only with slightly different methods of annoying the customers.

[davescm]

"Yes I want to use Office 10 from 2002, and Photoshop 6 from the same era."

No problem - use hardware and an operating system from the same era. Not arrogant, just practical. If you want to freeze your system in time, you need to freeze all of it.

Dave

[default9regjvhp22ll]

LOLs... I use Photoshop 6 from about 1996 and Office from 2010.

They still edit photos and produce letters that fit all my needs.

BTW... I have and still use a TI-30SLR+ calculator I bought in 1987. It
has a photo panel that keeps it charged and running on household/office
lights.

Why waste money on upgrades for unneeded features?

[MCS5C83]

Try using a virtual machine like VirtualBox, or VMware.