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Saving as TIF, how to set "Layer Compression" default as ZIP?

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Dec 02, 2023 Dec 02, 2023

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Hi! My workflow in Photoshop has always been non-destructive. Just incase I want to come back, to revisit edits. So I save all the layers, and never flatten. 

With the ever growing size of raw on these newer cameras, I've been hitting the 4GB limitation for layered TIF, even if compression is ZIP. I've found that enabling Layer Compression to ZIP always gets me under the 4GB limit to get it to play nice in my workflow.

Is there a way to set default behavior of Layer Compression to ZIP? I'm tiring of having to Save As, and hitting the ZIP option. 

Thank you!

P.S. is there a better way to use an alternative format like PSB, and have the Lightroom Classic catalog/stack it by default?  I rely on LrC a lot, so that would be a requirement. 

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Dec 03, 2023 Dec 03, 2023

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EDIT: Unless I'm missing something, I think that this is as good as it gets with ExtendScript (perhaps UXP behaves differently).

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Dec 04, 2023 Dec 04, 2023

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Thank you so much for trying. I've learned so much from this.

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Dec 03, 2023 Dec 03, 2023

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Here is how action should be recorded if you want to save in specific folder with current file name. Action below is saving image open in Photoshop in Desktop folder named New Folder. It will save file or image as TIFF with ZIP compression using current file name. 

save tiff zip comp.jpg

You can also assign keyboard shortcut to play action. Doble click on the right side of action name then set shortcut to play action.

assign keyboard to play action.jpg

 

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Dec 03, 2023 Dec 03, 2023

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thank you @Bojan Živković , problem with this is, that I have to point it to the folder I want it saved, by manually clicking away to find the folder. 

Compared to just hitting save, and having it automatically save to the parent folder that the original RAW came from. The script that @Stephen_A_Marsh provided works beautifully, cept the dialog I can't get rid of. 

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Dec 04, 2023 Dec 04, 2023

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Have you tried mucking with these options?

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Dec 04, 2023 Dec 04, 2023

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yes we have, it doesn't work as described few posts above, and the script helped but it doesn't save in background. 

 

I guess we can't have our cake and eat it too? 

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Dec 04, 2023 Dec 04, 2023

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@Mark.Dahm you can easily replicate the inability to have the "layer compression: zip" option being stickied in both mac and PC on my end. 

If you have a layered TIF, that is bigger than 4GB, it will behave that way. @Stephen_A_Marsh was just trying to use the scripting function to have it save, but while his script succeeds, it locks up the program by displaying the saving dialog, instead of the background save (regardless of the check mark in save in background)

To sum it up:

Original Problem: My TIFF files exceed 4GB often. Photoshop displays error, and suggests to save as PSB. I usually cancel that dialog, as PSB saves to wrong folder too (its a bug documented elsewhere). So after cancel, I proceed to Save As, and click on "layer compression: ZIP". Then it succeeds save. This takes far too many clicks. I wish it to "sticky" default to "layer compression:ZIP" no such option current PS.

Second problem: Lightroom doesn't natively edit/handoff to Photoshop as PSB. Only TIFF/PSD. This whole problem could be solved if Lightroom Classic gives the option to Edit as PSB.

Third problem: Using scripting we were able to get it to save as TIFF ZIP + Layer Compression: ZIP. But it no longer saves in the background. Useful, but sort of taking two steps forward and one step back. I am currently opening all the images I want to work on, in photoshop, and using this script, to save all the files as the TIFF ZIP + Layercompression ZIP. and then going forward and using regular save. Pretty cumbersome, but better than the original problem.

 This doesn't take into account the space savings. LayerCompression ZIP TIFF are sometimes half the size. I wish layercompression setting would "stick" for all future saves. 

Hope that makes sense.

 

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Dec 04, 2023 Dec 04, 2023

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@Mark.Dahm – Thank you for stopping by and taking an interest!

 

It's very rare that an Adobe employee publicly enters a discussion outside of a bug report or idea feature request.

 

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