/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/12267450#M5137Jun 13, 2017
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@ Oscar: and Macs are overpriced... and annoying and egocentric and ugly (imho). Currently I'm using Aftershot Pro and Gimp which work very well for me as a photographer. As a webdesigner I'm using Inkscape + Gimp, and that combination also works for me. Using a Linux convertor I can even deliver cmyk files to a print service or publisher, never had any complaints.
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I'm going to have to take a look at Aftershot Pro. Being that I'm a long time Photoshop user (and paid Adobe a lot of money for all the upgrades over the years), I've really felt like moving away from it is only worth it if there's something that is at least as good. My experience with Gimp was that it wasn't. Even something like a clipping mask, which is easy in PS is just not possible with Gimp (or it wasn't the last time I tried). I use clipping masks a lot, so it's a must have feature for me.
Same thing goes for Illustrator. I haven't tried Inkscape, but I will. I can tell you one thing for sure, if Adobe doesn't make native Linux versions of their software, I will never be there customer again. I may someday be forced to use Gimp. I moved away from other operating systems a couple years ago, and with the exception of Photoshop and Illustrator, everything else I need is available for Linux. Most of it for free, as you know. I'm never going back to Windows or Mac (unless I'm paid a lot to do it).
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You are right ofcourse, I remember I used clipping masks a lot when exporting eps files for publishers. Because I don't do a lot of desktop publishing anymore I can do without Photoshop and Illustrator. Gimp took me a while in getting used to it, and except some things I miss, like simply Ctrl-click on a layer with transparency to select the object in that layer, clicking the mask tool and voila..., I even like working with Gimp more than I did with Photoshop.
By the way, I only use Aftershot Pro for raw converting, but since I use it, I barely touch Gimp. And when I have to, I can click on External Editor to open Gimp and there I can edit the image as a tif image. The only thing is that Gimp can't handle 16 and 32 bit images just yet, only the new development version and upcoming version 2.9.
So you are absolutely right about the advantages of Photoshop and Illustrator. I just coped and got used to the current limitations, which gave me one big win: I don't have to deal with the frustrations of working with Windows or Apple ;).
Possibly never. (Edit: That is with Wine it is apparently possible.)
It’s been a while since Mr.Cox weighed in on the matter (he has supposedly left Adobe since) but at the time his statements were fairly clear: The market research indicated that the investment was not economically justified.
And missing standardisation in fields like Colour Management did not improve the case …
Feel free to lend your support to an existing Feature Request:
I agree and back to the original question. When will I be able to use Photoshop in Linux?
I don't want wine, nor dual boot. I want a PC , an OS I like, Photoshop and I don't mind paying
You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you do not like either WINE or dual booting, why not install VirtualBox, and run Photoshop in seamless mode? (And create a shortcut on the desktop!). It will look and feel as if you are running Photoshop natively on Linux.
In my opinion, photoshop better used in windows only, if used in linux, how to license it later ???
There is no difference between running Photoshop/CC in a virtual machine and a 'real' physical machine. You install the CC app, log in, and install Photoshop and run it.
I'm also photographer from Russia, and using Darktable/Rawtherapee/Aftershot for editing RAW files. But if Adobe will do Lightroom and Photoshop for Linux, its will be very cool. Shut up, and take my money 🙂
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We as a company install and support Linux for our customers. One of our oldest client is a magazine publisher, whose whole infrastructure runs on linux. only for proof checking images they have a windows box in a vm for photoshop. They sure would pay for a photoshop on linux license, but not for windows os. So please adobe people port PS to linux and cash in...
/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/9168081#M24548Aug 17, 2017
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make the market more attractive (ie: be willing to pay for software).
Mr. Cox was wrong. I'm a Linux user and I'm currenly paying for Photoshop+Lightroom. Now I want both ports for Linux, because I don't want to use Windows for photo editing anymore, and Apple hardware is overpriced. How long will I have to wait?
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My impression was (but I admit I did not take the time to reread his posts now) that he repeatedly stated that Adobe’s market research indicated that the number of linux-users willing to pay for Adobe’s software was insufficient to justify the necessary expense of the port (edit: and maintenance).
I understand. How many Linux users are required to pay for maintenance of the port? Will 1000 subscribers (~12EUR each) be enough? Or maybe 10000? I'm just curious what Adobe expects.
I'm writing here, because today is 2017. There is not-so-good Win10 and lack of powerful-and-not-overpriced Macs. In this situation many people are looking around and asking for alternatives.
The problem of Linux is still same - lack of pro & paid software. But this is changing slowly - Blackmagic released Davinci Resolve for Linux this year, EditShare released Lightworks V14 (a 3rd release of a great NLE), there is BMD's Fusion and The Foundry's Nuke. They're a video tools, but Photoshop is a photo tool, so it is more popular, and it should have a bigger impact to the market. It should increase a Linux usage in photo editing, I think. And there is no pro photo tool for Linux, so Adobe may be the first one (and become a leader, again).
So I am a one of ... (how many?) current users, who would like to switch to Linux. Maybe this is a great time for a new survey?
as his name no longer features on the splash screen
What? He's wiped out from the application's history? He didn't write that code after all?
marcinn, you and three others may be willing to pay - but the whole idea of Linux is to not pay for anything. That's probably half the reason it still exists, the other half is geeky stuff for people who like to get their hands dirty.
This is just statistics and large numbers. The user base isn't there, if it was, they'd do it. We all agree they're greedy, right?
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The total number of CC subscriptions is now approaching 10 million. With about 50/50 market split Mac/Win, say 5 million. Of these, most of them use Photoshop in one configuration or other.
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marcinn, you and three others may be willing to pay - but the whole idea of Linux is to not pay for anything.
This is the most common myth. The whole idea is about opened source, to get easy compiled version in any environment (as a solution for a distro fragmentation problem), to have possibility to fix things (a community work), and (the radical one) - to make software free (in terms of freedom, but not about the costs).
Yes, there are users who want the software to be free (in terms of cost), but they also exists in mac and win community. They're pirating the software, including an operating system.
The total number of CC subscriptions is now approaching 10 million. With about 50/50 market split Mac/Win, say 5 million. Of these, most of them use Photoshop in one configuration or other.
No, 1000 souls would not be enough.
So if a Linux market is currently about 1% of desktops and Adobe has 10M subscribers, we're talking about 100k potential Linux subscribers. Would be 100k enough, then?
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I think Adobe must have some kind of policy of retiring the names of programmers no longer on the Photoshop project. There are other notable absentees like John Knoll and Steve Guttman. Good old Russell Brown is still there though.
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This is the most common myth. The whole idea is about opened source, to get easy compiled version in any environment (as a solution for a distro fragmentation problem), to have possibility to fix things (a community work), and (the radical one) - to make software free (in terms of freedom, but not about the costs).
But does this not also mean Adobe has effectively no single point of contact when it comes to crucial issues like implementation of Color Management in Linux?
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If you want to reduce contact points in general, I'd recommend Gnome Foundation (because they're working on a complete desktop stack, incl. color & displays management and apps distribution) or/and RedHat Inc (because they're responsile for solutions closer to the hardware, and they're authors of well known and popular distros - RedHat, CentOS and Fedora).
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