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Did Elements put it there?
Could be. There seems to be a recent, unofficial requirement for the Cloud desktop app to be installed in order to successfully install and activate recent versions of Elements (at least 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022).
Some people have struggled to complete the installation successfully until they have installed the Cloud deskop app. Seems odd given that Elements is not a Cloud subscription product.
Further research is telling me that because Photoshop Elements 2022 can work with Raw images, that it installs CC because Camera Raw is part of CC.
By @Dani23062343dx3u
Nonsense,
The Camera Raw which is part of CC is the full Photoshop ACR version. It can't be used without a validating subscription, not at all with Elements. The limited PSE ACR version shares assets of the full ACR which are installed separately. That explains that a workaround to update the PSE ACR to new cameras requires copying and pasting some assets from the full ACR folders into the PSE ones. It seems that it works even with PSE2021 Windows store versions without the CCDesktop app.
A creative cloud account can be a good thing- you can have one, yet not subscribe to anything. As John Waller mentioned one of the ways to "clear up some oddball installation issues" Zthe fix was to install the Adobe creative cloud app- and basically forget about it.
I realize you know all the following, but others may not know what's in the app, and may be missing out.
Any reason why since it's not a Creative Cloud product?
By @John Waller
My guess is that the Elements team is not really at liberty to give the real reasons WHY the CCD (Creative Cloud Desktop) is now systematically installed (Global marketing strategy). We would be happy though to get answers to HOW this is implemented.
- for instance, is CCD systematically installed in Mac and Windows store versions?
- How does it work with users already having a CC subscription and CCD already installed?
- With PSE2021, the CCD was only available for a number of 'test' users (my case). With PSE2022, the CCD is still installed (I suppose with PSE, since it launchs without me having any Cloud subscription active). What about the feature of saving files to the Cloud in PSE2021?) I'll keep PSE2021 installed together with PSE2022 to keep the feature.
Thanks in advance for answering similar factual questions, and if possible, would it be possible to group those partial answers in a new tech doc?
...installing the CCD, the application is apparently used for license verification purposes.
...(saving to Cloud) is tied to the user's Adobe.com account. It makes sense that this is one reason for installing the CCD app.
By @Greg_S.Elements already had a "license verification" process. Of course, Adobe could have decided to save a few lines of code and remove that capability from PSE. The point remains; Adobe creates a need for more of the apps we have specifically chosen NOT to install/buy/use and completely fails to inform their customers. And, in my eyes, they simply decide to install links to those unwanted apps/services and then refuses to allow us to delete them.
BTW, I have read that "Save to Cloud" has been removed from the CC functions that are installed suripticiously.
By @xAirbusdriver
You mean:
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/using/save-to-cloud-termination.html?mv=affiliate&mv2=red
The important thing to understand is that nowadays, the single word 'CLOUD' is a kind of explosive, something which triggers all sorts of panic from the imagination! In our discussion, there is absolutely nothing common between 'save to Cloud' and 'Desktop Creative Cloud'. Ok, a storing place in the Internet provided by Adobe instead of OneDrive, Google, Dropbox...
And a software managing platform for the dozens of Adobe pro apps who were created and aggregated under the pleasing marketing name: Creative Cloud.
That's what explains why many (mainly non-pros) users opposed to the subscription model used by those pro apps won't hear the simple word 'Cloud'. Of course, Adobe marketing must be aware of that situation, and that results only in timid explanations and mentions of both the file storing space and the managing platform.
If the managing platform had another name similar to the old (obsolete) AAM Adobe Application Manager and if the 2GB space had been named differently, we could discuss those matters in a more relaxed manner.
As a Windows user, I am puzzled why you are finding many '.apps' everywhere in Macs recently. It seems that the various functions quoted as apps have no direct correspondents in Windows, and are ways for Apple to better manage security permission issues. However, I do find a similar trend as yours to be able to control each and every module or service like the numerous background tasks offered in a global package.
Well, whether you like it or not, softwares with multiple features and having to run in any kind of hardware and OS environment are not sold in 'kits'. Some feel they know enough to sort and choose only what they need. Good luck for them. What I see is that Adobe's choice in their formulas is on the contrary to offer more than you need to, starting with the Photographer's plan.
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