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bitm07
Inspiring
June 17, 2013
Question

New features in Photoshop Elements 12 ?.

  • June 17, 2013
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Photoshop Elements has come a long way since it replaced Photoshop 5 LE back in 2001.  It however still lacks many of the more professional features of Photoshop Creative Cloud such as 16 Bit Editing, CMYK color mode and soft-proofing.  It also has a number of watered down or simplified features like the slider depended Adjust Color Curves and Photomerge Exposure rather than HDR editing.  With Photoshop Elements 12 expected to be released in September what new features or functionally would you most like to be added to the new version ?.

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New Participant
September 28, 2013

Is there is "Bugs fixed" list (from PSE11)?

PSE11 Organiser (under W7 64) has many, many smallish bugs ranging from losing focus, loss of some keyboard commands from time to time (they come back after switching around) (and no, I don't have software that is intercepting the missing commands), inconsistent exports, inconsistent UI (eg people v other tags) and non-compliant interaction with the OS.  Why is the drop down on a tag missing 'search on this tag' (having to move the mouse way over to the right to the arrow is clumsy), why oh why doesn't the people section have the same drop downs and search functions, comments and everything else the other tags have?  Why, when the list is closed, doesn't the people list roll up in the same way as other tags roll up?  Why does Adobe seem to think that my experience of their software is improved by taking ever more of the screen for their commands, menus and buttons?

However, the list of functions missing or removed from previous versions has somehow omitted the loss of proper calendar function.  See http://forums.adobe.com/message/4742299#4742299 for a description of this and Adobe's apparent failure to address even a support tool to extract the Calendar entries of previous versions to allow an alternative to be used.

The other major loss is dual monitor support, again, not  listed in the 'removed functions' FAQ.

Perhaps Adobe should rename the 'removed functions' FAQ as 'Removed from PSE11', it doesn't cover earlier versions properly?

bitm07
bitm07Author
Inspiring
September 23, 2013

Expect an announcement shortly

Adobe have already updated their Help and Tutorial's pages to Elements 12, although the links they are connected to currently take you to Elements 11 info etc.

Link below

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements.html

bitm07
bitm07Author
Inspiring
September 23, 2013

The Help and Tutorial page descriptions have been changed back to Elements 11.

mytaxsite
Inspiring
September 23, 2013

bitm07 wrote:

The Help and Tutorial page descriptions have been changed back to Elements 11.

This is a very bad sign indeed.  Perhaps it is not coming out this week!!!  Why is Adobe so secretive about the release date?  Don't they want to create the hype like other software makers do?  Apple, and Microsoft to name just two would announce in advance so that people can start queuing up for the release date.

Known Participant
August 18, 2013

I would like to have the ability to open multiple JPEG images in Camera RAW.  It is possible, of course, to open multiple RAW images in Camera RAW, however to do the same with JPEG images would make life much easier !  I take both RAW and JPEG depending on circumstances.

New Participant
August 17, 2013

16 Bit Editing is definately a feature i would like to see. More and more amateurs want this feature. And i don't think it's a feature worth 20$ a month (Photoshop Cloud).

I don't think they need to add CMYK color mode. Unless i'm mistaken it's a feature mostly used by pro. Anyway i don't need it personally.

64 bits support would definately be nice. Pretty much everyone these days using PSE and its big brother have 64 bits OS and 4+ GB of ram. 8GB is the standard for new PC these days. In fact 10 years from now we wont even consider this a feature it will be standard like 32 bits app were 5 years ago.

I would like the Organizer to be overhauled too. It's stupid to have a splash screen when we start the Organizer alone. And the organizer is somewhat slow to start and bulky when you compare it to MS Photo Gallery. The UI ain't that great either. It's not bad by any mean but i think it should destroy the competition which is not really the case right now imo.

Have nothing to do with Photoshop Elements but they really need to step up Premiere Elements. While it's not bad there's a problem when a company like Cyberlink can clearly beat you ...

Inspiring
September 20, 2013

Ditto on overhauling the Organizer. LONG past due. A piece of software that crashes 100% of the time on a common operation just because the file is stored on the network? Pleeessee. That's so 1995...

Participating Frequently
August 16, 2013

A few thoughts related to the Organizer portion:

  1. Comments for tags.  The ‘keyword tags’ in all the versions I’ve used allows you to enter comments about the tag.  However, version 11 introduced ‘people tags’ – but that did not include the ability to enter comments about the ‘people tags.’  For myself, I found the comment field to be very valuable.  I used them regularly to add notes about who barely-recognizable distant-relatives were, and how they were related to me, etc.  I would love to see a comment field added to the ‘people tags.’
  2. Default location for PSE Catalog.  By default, Elements places the catalog in the \ProgramData\ folder (on Windows machines).  The problem is that few users would think to backup this folder as part of routine backup procedures, unless they were backing up the full hard disk.  And, most of the consumer backup utilities (and services, e.g. Carbonite) generally have defaults to only backup the \users\{username}\ folder structure.  As a result, for users who are diligent about doing regular backups, there is a pretty good chance that they are not backing up this very critical file.  Compounding this is the fact that the process to move the catalog to another folder is far from intuitive.  It is virtually impossible to figure out from the user-interface itself.  As I’ve wanted to move the catalog location with each new version of the release, I’ve had to spend considerable time searching the web and Adobe knowledgebase to find out how to do it.  It would be great if 1) the default location was in the \users\{username}\ folder structure, and/or 2) the user could change the location during the installation process, and/or 3) the process for changing the location after installation was simpler and more intuitive
  3. Comments/Captions.  In Windows, there are several pieces of information associated with each picture file (e.g. date taken, camera type, dimensions, etc.).  The comments field is one that I use to enter information about the image (names, locations, events, etc.).  I’ve been doing since before my use of PSE.  It would be great if PSE could grab this information when doing a media import and store it as the PSE caption information.
  4. Folder hierarchy view.  In version 11, the folder-tree pane on the left side of the Organizer only shows folders that have been imported into PSE.  In previous versions, the folder-tree showed 'all' folders - and those that had not been imported to PSE were greyed out.  I found the view in pervious versions to be very helpful, as it served to let me know which directories I had not yet imported.  With the interface in version 11, I either 1) have to make more of a manual effort (comparing my actual folder-tree with that I see in PSE), or 2) rely on memory to realize that PSE is not showing me pictures that I have.

I'm looking forward to the new version.

MichelBParis
Community Expert
August 16, 2013

brian11375 wrote:

A few thoughts related to the Organizer portion:

  • Folder hierarchy view.  In version 11, the folder-tree pane on the left side of the Organizer only shows folders that have been imported into PSE.  In previous versions, the folder-tree showed 'all' folders - and those that had not been imported to PSE were greyed out.  I found the view in pervious versions to be very helpful, as it served to let me know which directories I had not yet imported.  With the interface in version 11, I either 1) have to make more of a manual effort (comparing my actual folder-tree with that I see in PSE), or 2) rely on memory to realize that PSE is not showing me pictures that I have.

Brian,

For the last item,don't wait for the new version. You can switch from the internal folder view you are mentionning to the complete drive folder tree by clicking on the the small yellow icon (2 rectangles) on the right of the title 'My Pictures'. The new view is called 'Pictures', and it's not buggy like in the former versions.

Participating Frequently
August 16, 2013

Thanks, Michael.  I had looked for a work-around when I first ran into this issue, and again now with your suggestion - but I'm still having no luck.

When I first launch Organizer, the top of the folder-hierarchy pane shows 'my folders' (not 'my pictures').  However, there is still a yellow icon to the right of that 'my folders' title (the icon looks like two yellow folders).  When I hover over it, it shows 'show folder hierarchy.'  When I clikc on it, click on it I do get a slightly different view of the hierarchy, but it still won't show me folders that have not yet been imported (I specifically created a new folder via Windows Explorere with one picture in it for this test). 

I feel like I'm missing something obvious.

July 16, 2013

I would also love to see 64 bit OS support... and please don't turn it into a subscription-only offering like CC.

Seems like rumors have Photoshop Elements 11 coming once again in Septemer 2013 (an annual release cycle just like the last few years).

the_wine_snob
Inspiring
July 25, 2013

While things are always subject to change, I have not heard anything about PrE, or PsE going to the CC (Creative Cloud), but as pointed out, the new version has historically been released by mid-Sept, or early-Oct, in time for Holiday shopping.

Over the last several years, ProDesignTools (an Adobe partner, and influencer) has hit the release date pretty closely - think they were within two days, with PrE 11.

As those, who really KNOW, cannot say, we only have speculation on when the new version will be released. We may need to wait until that release, to find out both what is in PrE/PsE 12, and how those Elements programs will be licensed.

Obviously, the big, full-featured programs, like Ps, PrPro, AE and some others HAVE gone exclusively to the CC licensing, I do not anticipate that Adobe will make changes to those programs, but have no reason to anticipate that the Elements programs will go to CC. One of the big pluses with the CC licensing, is that those bigger programs will get constant updating - something that has seldom applied to the Elements programs. Still, we all must wait.

Good luck to us all,

Hunt

New Participant
July 15, 2013

Adjustment brush in ACR for elements

PaulFBarrett
Known Participant
June 18, 2013

Only one - and it's none of the above!

Support for 64 bit OS and memory beyond 3GB.  I have 32GB and 'out of memory' messages become as irritating as hell under those conditions.

bitm07
bitm07Author
Inspiring
June 18, 2013

I know what you mean, I should have included 64 bit OS in the original post.  It's so annoying when you've worked on an image and can't save for this reason when you've got plenty of RAM not being utilized in your machine.

PaulFBarrett
Known Participant
June 18, 2013

Right, and all the more baffling when you consider that for a PSE typical user, a 64 bit >4GB RAM machine has probably been the de facto spec for years now.  Perocnally is PSE 12 had no othe feature than 64 bit mult thread support that would be enough to justify its purchase.