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P: Frame substitution attempt aborting error - .MXF Files Fixed in version 25

Explorer ,
Mar 03, 2024 Mar 03, 2024

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UPDATE 10-14-24:  

MXF file frame substitution errors has been fixed in version 25 of Premiere Pro 

 

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I've seen a number of posts about this, and am now running into the problem myself. Although there are a few differences I'd like to share that I'm hoping may shed more light on what appears to be a longstanding issue.

 

Specs: M3 Max Macbook Pro (64GB RAM), Sonoma 14.3.1, Premiere Pro 24.1.0

 

The .MXF files were shot XAVC-I from the Sony FX6 shot on a V90 card. I copied the entire memory card structure to my internal drive, and imported the clips using the media browser. The clips are 59.94 fps and 23.976 fps on a 23.976 timeline.

 

As I perform regular editing tasks (slowing 59.94 clips to 40%, adding clips to timeline, scrolling through), I get these error messages.

 

BUT, here's the kicker: I'm not actually seeing dropped frames yet. For one of the clips I received the error on, I decided to go to the source window and scroll through frame by frame. I didn't see any black frames, but scrolling through did create 9 new error messages at different frames.

 

Aside from the error popups being annoying, this is a project that many people are depending on. If these dropped frames actually do end up showing, I'll be in a bad spot. It seems as though with every new project, I have to factor in at least a day to deal with errors or bugs in Premiere. I shouldn't have to be constantly fighting with the tools that allow me to do my job. Moreover, the C70 and FX6 both shoot in .MXF and are fixtures of video production. Frankly, I'm taken aback that there hasn't been more meaningful support from Adobe on this.

 

I'm currently creating ProRes Proxies to see if that may solve the issue, but I'm concerned that this will only solve the problem in editing, and the error (dropped frames) may show up once exported.

 

Does anyone have thoughts on why this may be happening? Is it time to switch to Resolve like everyone seems to be saying, or could this be a workflow issue on my end?

 

Many thanks!

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 11, 2024 Sep 11, 2024

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I'm on 25.1.0 Build 8. It's not having any trouble with .mxf video now, but it has trouble with audio sometimes. Nothing big, just sound drops out and it throws a warning message. But this is a minor quibble. It's miles ahead of v24 when it comes to dealing with .mxf video, Dare I say they fixed it?

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New Here ,
Sep 12, 2024 Sep 12, 2024

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Hello! 

 

Would you mind screenshotting the media metadata and sequence settings dialogue box? What GPU are you using? I work for a company with dozens of editors and solved this issue by adjusting a couple of items on the sequence side. Proxies are always a plus and exporting through ME never hurts. 

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New Here ,
Sep 12, 2024 Sep 12, 2024

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Thanks.
Not sure what you specifically mean by media meta data - but the
problematic files are MXF from Sony FS7, not sure of the data rate, but not
super high.

GPU is
[image: Screen Shot 2024-09-12 at 2.41.37 PM.png]

Mac Info is
[image: Screen Shot 2024-09-12 at 2.42.58 PM.png]

Here's the sequence settings:
[image: Screen Shot 2024-09-12 at 2.36.40 PM.png]

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New Here ,
Sep 12, 2024 Sep 12, 2024

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sorry, replied via email and images didn't attach.  I'm having similar problems with mxf files, starting about 3-4 weeks ago.

GPU

Screen Shot 2024-09-12 at 2.41.37 PM.png

 Mac

Screen Shot 2024-09-12 at 2.51.42 PM.png

 sequence settings

Screen Shot 2024-09-12 at 2.36.40 PM.png

 No longer getting substitution error message, but the mxf files hang, updating to a new still frame every couple of seconds.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 12, 2024 Sep 12, 2024

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 25.1.0 Beta (Build 11) has cleared up all issues with our C70 .mxf files on our studio PCs!  It's the best performance I've seen so far.

 

Chris

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 22, 2024 Sep 22, 2024

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error.jpgHi, now i have all sorts of error messages. And the proxies files doesn't seem to activate... is it possible to have a stable version of premiere pro to work on please ?

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 22, 2024 Sep 22, 2024

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Hi, please how does new beta version work with mxf.? Are there still errors and glitches? I'm going to edit a big project and I don't want to realize the problems while I'm working. Or should I convert all the mxfs to another format just to be sure? To which one? And which app for converting a huge numbers of files do you recommend?  

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 22, 2024 Sep 22, 2024

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The Beta is fine with .mxf files. I’ve edited two big projects on it with no problems. Plus it’s got some other goodies you’ll either love or hate.

Sent from my phone, but don’t be afraid to call me out on typos.

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New Here ,
Sep 25, 2024 Sep 25, 2024

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I am using Beta 25.0.0 and 25.1 and can playback MXF files without getting error messages, however I still have clips with artefacts in the playback and export (clips that are fine in VLC). I don't believe the current beta has 100% resolved the issue with MXF files.

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Adobe Employee ,
Oct 14, 2024 Oct 14, 2024

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