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September 2, 2012
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4:3 safe margins for 16:9 video?

  • September 2, 2012
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Hi, its basically what I'm looking for, I can find 16:9 safe margins, but I'm editing 16:9 video footage that will be broadcast 4:3, I was wondering if there was an option somewhere for that?

I'm using CS6, thanks!

Mike

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Participant
January 16, 2014

If you click on the drop down in the Program Window -and go to “Overlay Settings> Settings” there is an option to "Include 4:3 Safe Margins". That should do the trick.

Steven L. Gotz
Inspiring
January 16, 2014

This is a pretty old thread. The OP was using CS6 and that feature was added in CC.

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DrTc
Inspiring
April 1, 2021

For some reason this is not available in AE.  An application for compositing where we constatntly change comp sizes for accomodating moving objects yet there is a need to have a visual cue of where 16:9 or other safe margins are.

Legend
September 2, 2012

I'm editing 16:9 video footage that will be broadcast 4:3

Letterbox it and don't worry about 4:3.

Evil Edison
Known Participant
September 3, 2012

Jim Simon wrote:

Letterbox it and don't worry about 4:3.

The 4:3 safe zone in 16:9 is handy b/c pretty much any commercial made in HD has to be designed for center crop 4:3. But if you know it's only going to 4:3, you're right, just letterbox and forget about it.

shooternz
Legend
September 3, 2012

Thanks for comments, I thought maybe PP would have a built-in 4:3 safe margins, but I guess I can make-do without (don't feel like putting up another video layer.

Another question, what would be the best way to export 16:9 1080i video to a 4:3 DVD?


If you use the setting I supplied for Safe..you will be fine for broadcast. (although broadcasters specs vary a little.

Letterboxing 16:9 is only a creative option and not a solution to safe titles.. 

The safe areas are to ensure the graphics are safe and if they  are not.. it is possible to get a rejection from the broadcaster who is trying to cover audiences with 16:9 and SD displays.

Note .  some broadcasters use FHA 16:9 spec.This is 16:9 anamorphic (4:3) with protected SD for graphics.

shooternz
Legend
September 2, 2012

I dont think there is such a thng as safe areas for 16:9.  It is displayed  full raster .

For Broadcast SD within 16:9  if I recall correctly 

Set up preference :

Title as 20% Horiz and 20% Vert

Action as 10% Horiz and 10% vert.

able123
Inspiring
September 2, 2012

I think that because there are actually some 16:9 sources that aren't square pixels ( 1440x1080 vs 1920x1080 ? )

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/general-hd-720-1080-acquisition/86562-1440-x-1080-v-1920-x-1080-a.html

that a good way to do your safety is actually a psd image with the exact dimensions youre dealing with ..and lines you draw yourself in the psd file for your safety with the right par in the psd file ..Bill Hunt I think has some images like that maybe already made up if he comes around to see this...

You'd have to provide your source material dimensions, par and make sure you got the right project settings.

Basically you'd have 2 safety issues..one for 4:3 broadcast, and another for 4:3 " titles " which is the safety WITHIN the safety...

In other words, if they broadcast your 4:3 stuff analog ( like some public acess etc ) from digital , you will get some " blanking" on the right and left of your frame...which means you need to actually know the safety for THAT within your 4:3 aspect ratio.