Adobe Premiere Pro - Lastest Cloud Version - Cloud Cooperation with other paying Adobe Cloud Users

[Sascha Block]

Initial situation:

I want to share an Adobe Premiere project that I have already created with another team member using Adobe Cloud.

You would think this should be a standard feature, but it's not, it's a dead end. Therefore, directly as a feature request to the Adobe Development Team.

1) It MUST be possible to export an existing project (IN ANY ADOBE PRODUCT) as a cloud project = share. For this, a corresponding feature within the Adobe App is missing, here concrete Adobe Premiere.

2) It should also be possible to share any Adobe files including used assets easily in a maximum of 3 steps. In the case of Adobe Premiere, this does not even work for a simple project file because the upload of the file format is simply restricted and such file types are not supported.

Adobe - what are you doing and why do you think that paying users are happy with such non-existing features?

At this point I can simply just please any other user having difficulties of same kind or similar to create feature requests to Adobe and to comment this post. 

Thank you!

[John V Knowles]

How are you trying to share the project file? It should be readable in any online storage system like Dropbox, Box, Google Drive, etc.

If you are trying to share files from your Creative Cloud storage, perhaps this article can help you:
https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/help/share.html

[Rag and Bone]

Have you looked at this area of the user guide?

[R Neil Haugen]

There are several ways to do collaboration with Pr projects.

But first, understand the Project does not include any media ... project files only include metadata links to where the "imported" media resides on disc.

Sharing project files via Dropbox & etc. as mentioned above is one way, but the least collaborative in behavior.

Working within the Team Project or Production modes is designed are both to be used with multiple users at a time.

Team Project workflows automatically include storing the project file on the Adobe Cloud with all Team members invited to share the project.

Production assumes you are sharing the project either by network server or file transport such as LucidLink.

My partner and I do both regularly. I'm in Oregon, he's in Cape Town, our shared storage is Amazon S3 in London, transport services via LucidLink.

Neil

[Sascha Block]

@R Neil Haugen @John V Knowles  @Rag and Bone Thank all of you for your answer.
I'm familiar with cloud work flows and setting up them either. 

What nobody answers is the transfer option with a functional workflow to convert a regular Adobe Premiere Project to the collaboration mode. There MUST be a way for an existing Adobe Premiere Project to be shared. 
And I would expect that this way is always the same in every Adobe Product.

That's a simple rule of User Experience and designing interfaces.
Within all the links I haven't found anything to this...

[R Neil Haugen]

They include information on converting a stand-alone project into a Teams project or Production. Those allow active collaboration, and have locking for sequences while being edited & such.

Stand-alone projects are by design intended for working by one person at a time. The other two options are built specifically for collaborative purposes. And it takes a few seconds to conver to Team, a couple minutes to setup a Production.

If you simply wish to pass on the project to someone else, simply copy the file and send it via email or dropbox type link.

And of course now that they own Frame.io, that process of passing on H.264 clips to clients for comment is also built into all versions of Pr. Depending on what you want the client to be able to do, you may need to also buy a Frame.io subscription.

Your choice. They've built great tools for this, used by millions a day.

Neil

[Sascha Block]

 Thank you for your explanation, @R Neil Haugen. Can you please link to the simple information for converting a stand-alone project into a Teams project, please?

Thank you so much.

[Rag and Bone]

Here's how to convert.  (I have a friend in Google:-))

[Sascha Block]

@Rag and Bone Present the google snippet as a proof 🙂 

[Sascha Block]

@Rag and Bone Thank you, for your help and the correct answer.

The Dialog has to be Project in Team Project konvertieren, not other way round...  

[Sascha Block]

And as you can see this option can not be selected, so this is very confusing...

[Rag and Bone]

I can select it. Do you have a project open?

[Sascha Block]

@Rag and Bone I could select it, but it was the option Team Project in Project konvertieren, which is in german the other way round... That's why I mentioned it to be confusing. Wrong translation here... 
The invitation of other team members is simple, what remains unclear afterwards is if the assets are transfered to the adobe cloud or where this projects is mirroed in the adobe cloud. 

When closing Adobe Premiere I had the choice to share the assets but there's no dialog where the transfer of the upload is shown. And the cloud space remains empty. 

[R Neil Haugen]

On Team Projects, you each need to have the assets available 'locally', the Team Project is the only thing stored in the CC Cloud.

Although now there are several ways around this. My partner Mo is in Cape Town, SA. I'm in Oregon, USA. Almost half the world apart. Plus he's all Mac and we're all PC.

We have Amazon S3 servers in London, using the LucidLink service to 'deliver' them. It creates a local virtual drive on our local machines. And LL is designed specifically to transfer video files/assets in an intelligent way so that they are quickly usable on each attached computer.

Mo can get on WhatsApp, call me, say he's uploading a folder. Within seconds the folder appears on my LL virtual drive. A few seconds later, I see filenames appear.

I can go directly into Premiere, and import those files. Create a sequence. And the folder isn't even fully uploaded from Cape Town to London yet! Near magical.

Most projects I just use the media off that LL virtual drive. A few things, there's enough tracks going of heavy enough media, that I 'pin' some of the media so it also stashes it on my machine.

For many things, one could of course use DropBox or WeTransfer or something to share the media to another user on their machine. Then they point the Team Project to it, and off you go.

Neil

[Sascha Block]

@R Neil Haugen Thx, guess I'd prefer OwnCloud on OnPremise Infrastructure. This way files are easy to access and to control. Thx for your explanation.

[R Neil Haugen]

There's a number of ways of sharing files. I don't know of those, but imagine they're working fine for you.

Just note that if they're a service that is routinely checking the local folders & syncing, that can be an issue in Premiere as often in the process of doing so they can set a different 'flag' in the file header to tell them whether or not it's been synced ... which can throw off Premiere's metadata for the file.

So testing is good. As always.

Neil

[Sascha Block]

@Rag and Bone @John V Knowles  @R Neil Haugen Why is the procedure different or not existent in Adobe After Effects?
I really don't understand why this is so complicated and different... It's simply not possible to convert this project to a team project here...

 

[Sascha Block]

I don't get it...

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@Rag and Bone @John V Knowles  @R Neil Haugen Why is the procedure different or not existent in Adobe After Effects?
I really don't understand why this is so complicated and different... It's simply not possible to convert this project to a team project here...

 

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Can you tell me, which way I did not take that the menue options are NOT AVAILABLE to convernt it to a team project, please?