Assembly editing question

[chrisal4]

Hi,

In After-Effects, I can double click a clip in the timeline, insert a timecode in its viewer and the bar in the timeline will take me to that point of the clip in the actual timeline. In Premiere Pro CC (7.2.2), when I try to do the same, it takes me to the source clip in its own viewer - but when I insert the timecode I want to move to in the clip (in its source viewer), the bar in the timeline doesn't move. This makes is extremely hard to do assembly editing, so surely I must be missing something.

How can I double click a clip in the timeline and add a timecode in the source viewer for that clip where I want to make a cut, and have my timeline (the bar in the timeline) follow that action?

I hope this makes sense. If not I will happily explain further.

Thanks a lot.

Best,

Chris

[excited_Genie16B8]

My recommendation would be to update the software and use the Overlays, which can show you clips' timecode in the Program Monitor.

[chrisal4]

Unfortunately I can't upgrade as my system is frozen in time due to this project 😕

[Meg The Dog · Accepted solution]

You can do this on a per-clip basis by toggling on Gang Source and Program in the drop down menu located under the wrench icon in the lower right hand corner of the program monitor.

Unfortunately, this will toggle itself off each time you move the playhead to a new clip.

Normally (conventionally?) if you have timecode information for a source clip - where the clip should start and end, for example - you would load the source clip to the source monitor and enter the start timecode number so the source monitor playhead cues to that point  in the clip and put an In Mark there (shortcut the "I" key) and then do the same for the out,  and mark and outpoint there (shortcut the "O" key) - then move the clip from the source monitor to the timeline and only the contents between the in and out point will be moved to the timeline.

MtD

[chrisal4]

Meg thanks so much, I will try this now and see if it works.

Yes, I know what you mean. I do that too, but because I'm moving a project over manually from FCPX to Premiere, it interprets time code a little differently. The end frame that FCPX gives me is always 1 frame less than Premiere Pro, so once in the timeline (in After-Effects), if I double click the clip again and insert the timecode once more in its viewer, it will move the timeline bar to 1 frame next to the end where it's supposed to be so I can easily shift-cmd-D for a quick cut. I was hoping I could do the same in Premiere. After all it's the same developer.

Best,

Chris

[chrisal4]

It did work, and although annoying to have to do it for each clip, I made a shortcut. Thanks so much again.

Is there a command when having a clip highlighted in the timeline for a quick cut? Such as CMD+shift+D in AE?

[chrisal4]

Well, not really. Incredible how Premiere is unable to do such simple things.

[Wes Howell]

Hi Chris,

There are many different ways to work.  Couple of i

Ctrl / Cmd K or Shift Ctrl / Cmd K can be used to add an edit to a track or all tracks.  That will split a clip or stack of clips.

For trimming the tail of a clip that is already in a Sequence:

You can also use the up and down arrow keys to navigate to edit points. (clips)

After navigating to the end of a clip, Press left key move back a frame and press W to trim the end of the clip by 1 frame.

Hope that helps

[chrisal4]

Hi Wes,

thank you so much. What about my original question? All I need to be able to do is double click a clip in the timeline, get it loaded in the source monitor, click on its timecode and set new ins and outs. As FCPX has one frame less at the end, I need to be able to do this and have the bar in the timeline move with it. The suggestion I got above works once every 30th try. Other times nothing happens, or the bar in the timeline jumps all over the place. Very strange. In After-Effects I can double click a clip in the timeline, get it up in the source monitor, trim it (usually by just one frame) by pasting a timecode into the timecode window, and then cut it in the timeline. The bar in the timeline will move with me the entire time.

Am I missing something? I've been trying all day

Please look at the video I uploaded to get a sense of what I'm talking about.

Thanks in advance,
Chris

[Wes Howell]

Hi Chris,

As you've noted, Pr works a bit differently and isn't doing what you'd like.

Question -

If you load a clip in the Source Monitor, you can use the arrow keys (up and down) to navigate to in and out points, then use the arrow keys to move a frame back, then hit I/O as needed to set in and out points.

Isn't this easier than splitting the work between the Timeline and Source monitor?

[chrisal4]

Dear Wes,

Yes I can. That's what I'm doing now and it's working. It helps me when the timeline moves with me, just makes things easier. But thank you so much for all your help mate! I really appreciate it!

Best,
Chris