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interesting question.
like, say in a mystery show we see a criminal do a bad thing and then a detective ( later on ) 'imagines' the crime in black and white clip of same footage …
Don't know but maybe davinci could duplicate and rename the clip rather than the editor doing it ??? Scripts change and stuff happens during shoots so the editor on day 1 of shoot may not KNOW a clip is gonna be used again later.
good question.
yikes.. I just spent about 2 hours messing with this on laptop... took a clip from beginning of a timeline, stuck it on end, turned off saturation to make it black and white, and jumped through every menu option I could find to 'duplicate, rename, or find a way to create a new instance of the same clip but NOT be the same clip from media pool. No joy.
Would have saved a lot of time just going to the O.S. level, select clip in question, rename the stupid thing ( save as ) and stick it in the same spot on timeline ( replace clip might work, haven't got to that point yet ). Then do the color stuff on it.
I guess I'll end up trying that next, when I have the stamina.
Time for a beer.
I think I kinda tried that … in editor … duplicated clip, even renamed it sorta, but it ends up being he same clip when you go to color page and grade it... ( to B&W in my case ). When you go to media pool and click on the clips they are what you had to begin with ( color in this case ). The timeline timecode don't matter I don't think.. it's the grade that's not happening. ??? It's NOT a new instance of the clip. It's the same one.
On export you would see the B/W but sending stuff back would be the same stupid clip you got to begin with.
last effort just now...
moved clip I 'changed' ( used twice in same timeline, one color one black and white )...
On O.S. level, moved the clip in question to a temp directory. Renamed it CLIP 1 black and white ). Moved it BACK to the source directory of editing stuff... now have same clip with two names.
Put new clip on end of timeline and desaturated to B&W. in color page.
NOW, when you send it back to editor it will have the new clip with grade attached properly In My Opinion.
Unfortunately you have to trim the stupid thing to the edit you want as well as do the color stuff … cause the clip is the thing before in and out points were made.
Alan, this forum is user to user stuff. An open avenue for people to help one another try to solve problems. It is a totally separate partition from the other departments of Adobe relative to programming, designing, implementing and so on. You must have some idea how complicated a large software company operates on this scale... think of all the products stuff into the bag. The difficulty of getting 10 pounds into a 5 pound bag just keep increasing as more years of changes and additions are added. If you don't get it then nothing I say is gonna make a difference. But NOBODY you ever meet here in the forum, staff or special envoy, or anyone with medals and medallions, is gonna be WORKING for adobe in the sense you apparently think they do. They are lucky to be holding onto their jobs with some security just dealing with THE FORUM.
And luckily Kevin is very good and pays attention and keeps up on what's up as best he can. That means he goes out of his way to keep learning what the problems people experience are.. and uses the resources at his disposal to suggest solutions. He's very good at it. But he is NOT yapping with the people who are dealing with the huge block diagrams and programming department heads responsible for making the software. Nobody would be able to do that and play with kids on the forums, which is what 80% of this forum is about.
You have to do the searching and trials and fixing yourself and ask , and HOPE someone says something that clicks in your own head to lead you in a direction to solve the problem.
Good luck !
when I did my test yesterday I used the 'age of airplanes' tutorial project for resolve 15. I took the first clip from media pool and put it on end of timeline, went to color and made it black and white. same in out points. when now looking at media pool (thumbnails) resolve started acting weird, showing it offline until I put mouse over it. weird. played OK on timeline. But I've had that problem before ( offline thing, using 4k in 1080 timeline before optimizing (basically proxy)). So something wasn't right. plus the clip is the same clip, same name, same duration, etc. Sending back to someone would be same problem poster is having.
Soooo, I copied the clip to a temp directory, renamed it ( adding B-W to end of name), moved THAT into source directory, and now have new filename of same clip. Put on end of timeline, and NO IN OUT POINTS LIKE ORIGINAL. Had to TRIM the clip to match the original, then turn B&W. Save, etc. Now I got something that works and when sent BACK to someone a new file ( new clip) is added to the thing.
That should work,, but it's not ideal. Maybe there's a way for the editor to 'know' when stuff is gonna be duplicated later in grading process... and they can duplicate, rename, and (with same in out points) put that in the timeline they send to colorist. Makes sense to me...
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