default sequence setting for media type

[getho]

project bin> new sequence from clip

I use this all the time, for practically every clip in my edit, and it creates a new sequence, but for 4k footage it defaults to editing mode: red cinema, with values I have to change each time if I want to render a preview, then export it. Being able to specify what custom preset is used for a new clip seems like a no-brainer.  is there a way to do it, or a hack that would work?

[Meg The Dog]

If you have a sequence set up to your liking, then click on the 3 lines next to the Sequence Name in the timeline and choose Create Preset From Sequence:

Give the Preset a name and save it.

Next time you want to create a sequence using your custom present, go to the menu File > New > Sequence and when the Sequence Settings Pane opens, choose your preset in the Custom folder and click OK.

MtD

[getho]

Please re-read my post.  I know how to create and use presets.  I'm asking about creating a sequence from a clip where you do not get to choose the preset.

More info:

For my UHD clips it seems to be defaulting to RED HD 4k.  I have hacked this file:

4K HD 16x9 25.sqpreset (Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2017\Settings\SequencePresets\RED R3D\HD 4K)

to include some of the info from a custom preset that has my preview size and codec setup as I want it. 

Now when I use this preset:

it almost correctly (after the hack!) creates this sequence:

  except that when I go bin>create new sequence from clip

I get mpeg preview at 1080. 

IF anyone can point me at where else to hack, I'll have a go

[R Neil Haugen]

Bin/new sequence from clip doesn't go to your preset, PrPro picks the first preset it thinks comes close looking through the presets in alphabetic order ... and for some reason is using the one with the 1080 preview option. You might be able to get around this by creating a sequence preset and naming it such that it's the first one on the alphabetic list.

Or ... create new sequence by choosing the preset. A bit of a pain, but ... it would work.

Neil

[getho]

Hi Neil,

That must only be part of the story I think.  WHen I hack the file it appears to be using (red 4k HD 25),

and change this:

<PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Win>1297107278</PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Win>

<PreviewPresetFileName.Win>I-Frame Only MPEG</PreviewPresetFileName.Win>

<PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Mac>1297107278</PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Mac>

<PreviewPresetFileName.Mac>I-Frame Only MPEG</PreviewPresetFileName.Mac>

<EditingModeGUID.Win>d8484cf3-c96c-4622-ab1f-ac1a16e196f9</EditingModeGUID.Win>

<EditingModeGUID.Mac>d8484cf3-c96c-4622-ab1f-ac1a16e196f9</EditingModeGUID.Mac>

to this:

<PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Win>1128679492</PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Win>

<PreviewPresetFileName.Win>Quicktime GoPro CineForm (YUV 10-bit)</PreviewPresetFileName.Win>

<PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Mac>1128679492</PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Mac>

<PreviewPresetFileName.Mac>Quicktime GoPro CineForm (YUV 10-bit)</PreviewPresetFileName.Mac>

<EditingModeGUID.Win>9678af98-a7b7-4bdb-b477-7ac9c8df4a4e</EditingModeGUID.Win>

<EditingModeGUID.Mac>9678af98-a7b7-4bdb-b477-7ac9c8df4a4e</EditingModeGUID.Mac>

the only thing that happens is the editing mode changes from RED cinema to CUSTOM.

There is another file: adobe editing modes.xml that contains the EditingModeGUID, for both of those, but I can't see that it specifies which preview codec to use.  My guess is that there's another file somewhere or its hardcoded so that the default preview for the custom editing mode is I-frame mpeg. 

[getho]

this is what I learnt: the only thing its getting from that first preset is the GUID for the editing mode. 

If the GUID relates to custom (in the adobe editing modes.xml file), then the preview will be set to i-frame 1080.

If I hack the red 4k preset to this:

<PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Win>1096180840</PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Win>

<PreviewPresetFileName.Win>DNxHR HQ UHD 25</PreviewPresetFileName.Win>

<PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Mac>1096180840</PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Mac>

<PreviewPresetFileName.Mac>DNxHR HQ UHD 25</PreviewPresetFileName.Mac>

<EditingModeGUID.Win>CA2629AB-945F-43C5-9FB2-C4A304C54F9E</EditingModeGUID.Win>

<EditingModeGUID.Mac>CA2629AB-945F-43C5-9FB2-C4A304C54F9E</EditingModeGUID.Mac>

then the new sequence will be DNXHR.  I cant find an editing mode though that uses GOPRO cineform.

Anyone know of one?

[getho · Accepted solution]

I did it!

So neil you were right that the alphabet comes into it:

premiere looks for the first preset that corresponds to the sequence.  It looks up the editing mode only from that preset, then it uses the first sequence preview preset it finds in that editing mode's folder - in alphabetical order. so the hack (and this is for me more than anyone else) is:

1. hack 4K HD 16x9 25.sqpreset with this:

<VideoAllowLinearCompositing>true</VideoAllowLinearCompositing>

<VideoUseMaxRenderQuality>false</VideoUseMaxRenderQuality>

<VideoUseMaxBitDepth>true</VideoUseMaxBitDepth>

<VideoPixelAspectRatio>1,1</VideoPixelAspectRatio>

<PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Win>1128679492</PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Win>

<PreviewPresetFileName.Win>Quicktime GoPro CineForm (YUV 10-bit)</PreviewPresetFileName.Win>

<PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Mac>1128679492</PreviewPresetVideoCodec.Mac>

<PreviewPresetFileName.Mac>Quicktime GoPro CineForm (YUV 10-bit)</PreviewPresetFileName.Mac>

<EditingModeGUID.Win>9678af98-a7b7-4bdb-b477-7ac9c8df4a4e</EditingModeGUID.Win>

<EditingModeGUID.Mac>9678af98-a7b7-4bdb-b477-7ac9c8df4a4e</EditingModeGUID.Mac>

Premiere only looks at the GUID, but without the other stuff the file>new>sequence will spit the dummy.

2. Find the folder called "9678af98-a7b7-4bdb-b477-7ac9c8df4a4e"  (ie the Custom editing mode folder). On my system it's here:

\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2017\Settings\EncoderPresets\SequencePreview

3.Duplicate Quicktime GoPro CineForm (YUV 10-bit).epr and rename it 1a-Quicktime GoPro CineForm (YUV 10-bit).epr

This might seem like a massive waste of time, but I love my workflow. I have keyboard shortcuts setup, and having each clip as a new sequence means I can add warp stabiliser at their native resolution and pan and scan on a 1080 timeline. 

[excited_Genie16B8]

Premiere Pro won't do what you're asking for.  You'll have to change your work flow to get there.

[Urik_Kane]

Thank you for getting to the bottom of this. This solution still works for Premiere 2020.

For me, I just wanted Cineform as default preview format.

Copying .epr file to "1a..." makes it first alphabetically in the list, I assume that's why Premiere picks it.

Kinda silly there isn't an actual setting for that.

This also automatically fixed the preview resolution issue - with "I-Frame only MPEG" it was limited to 1920x1080.