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August 16, 2019
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Export Settings for best (highest bitrate) as per source file

  • August 16, 2019
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Hi, still a relative neubie with Premiere. Multi-fold question here.

I've got these 4k MP4 10 bit files which I know are at and about 150 Mbps.

In dealing with the export settings I see the following:

When exporting as H.264

  • For Preset 'High Quality 2160p 4k'
    I get Target as: 80 Mbps  and   Max: 96 Mbps
    Why not 150?
    • Is it up to me to then change the bitrate within the settings below that to a target befitting that which I believe the original to be at?
  • 'Use Maximum Render Quality'
    • I see mention at one online source that I may benefit from this if:
      ""Your source media has a higher bit depth than the format you are outputting to""
      • Soooo, considering how unsure I am about the target bitrate I should be using...IF I know that the original source' bitrate was about 150 Mbps and I target for say, 100 or 125. Is it highly recommended I check this one off?

I ask the above for the sake of rendering the highest quality for stock footage but at the same time, being able to keep down the rendering times.

Thanks humbly in advance.

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CyberfyberAuthor
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August 16, 2019

Ann, my concern isn't about what the company wants. That I know.

My originating question centered around Premiere Pro and my making the best of what it offers.

R Neil Haugen
R Neil Haugen
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August 16, 2019

I guess I'm still not understanding your concern.

You stated you needed an export setting, and those are always dependent on the needs for the deliverable.

And in the details, mentioned it is for submission to a stock agency.

Therefore ... the appropriate export for that deliverable is the one that best fits the requirements of the stock agency.

For a different use, the appropriate format/codec would probably be very different. As stated, one exports for the specific need.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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CyberfyberAuthor
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August 16, 2019

https://forums.adobe.com/people/R+Neil+Haugen  wrote

I guess I'm still not understanding your concern.

Someone already answered the Maximum Render Quality portion of my question to some extent.

The other portion dealt with the bitrate and why was it showing 96 as maximum instead of the original 150Mbps for the source file.

Simply wanted to see if I were missing out on something with my understanding of Premiere.

Admittedly, I could've detailed why I mentioned the stock agency portion. It was in anticipation for anyone wondering why I'm bothering shooting at 150Mbps. Been down that road other times when you mention something like, I'm shooting at such and such settings, then folks begin to chime in as to why are you bothering with such settings?

Shudder to think of the response if I mentioned the 400 Mbps 10 bit clip I just tested it out which Surprise! Renders tons faster than the one mentioned above. Although, it's got a huge file size. lol.

Ann Bens
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Ann BensCommunity Expert
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August 16, 2019

Cyberfyber  wrote

  • 'Use Maximum Render Quality'
    • I see mention at one online source that I may benefit from this if:
      ""Your source media has a higher bit depth than the format you are outputting to""
      • Soooo, considering how unsure I am about the target bitrate I should be using...IF I know that the original source' bitrate was about 150 Mbps and I target for say, 100 or 125. Is it highly recommended I check this one off?

Bitdepth is different from bitrate.

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    CyberfyberAuthor
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    August 16, 2019

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Ann+Bens  wrote

    Bitdepth is different from bitrate.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    I'm learning.

    Ann Bens
    Community Expert
    Ann BensCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    August 16, 2019

    Export depends on what you are going to do with the file: archive, disk, thumbdrive, Youtube...?

    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
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    August 16, 2019

    "Max Render Quality" is primarily of use when you are doing significant resizing, either from say 4k to 1080 or 1080 to 720.  It can help especially in smoothing "jaggies" on diagonal lines.

    H.264 is a very high compression interframe format. It uses only a complete compressed frame every 9-30 frames, and in between a simple data matrix of the pixels that have changed since the last complete I-frame, will change before the next I-frame, or both.

    It's best use is a camera format when much data needs to get to disc fast or delivery format especially for web use.

    What is the format/codec of your original media? What format/codec does the stock agency you are considering recommend?

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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      CyberfyberAuthor
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      August 16, 2019

      https://forums.adobe.com/people/R+Neil+Haugen  wrote

      What is the format/codec of your original media? What format/codec does the stock agency you are considering recommend?

      Neil

      Hi and thanks for the reply.

      The accepted formats are H.264 as MP4 or MOV   and, ProRes as MOV

      My source files are at h.264, MP4

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