Exporting to bluray

[tbucks12]

Hello !

I need to export 2x 55min films onto a bluray, but I've never done this before and am full of questions. Please have a look at the attached image, these are the codecs that I can choose from on my Premiere pro CS6 and Media encoder.

My sequence is in 25fps, and I would usually export it in something like HD 720p 25. But there is no such codec under Blueray in H264.

Do I need to download a codec somewhere? Or can I use one of these codecs without affecting my frame rate?

Thank you kindly for your help in advance,

T

[eikonoklastes]

Those are presets, not codecs.

You can customize any of those presets (or create your own), and set the parameters as you require.

In Media Encoder, click on the highlighted preset name in the Queue to open up its configuration window (the Export Settings dialog).

[tbucks12]

Hi Eikonoklastes, thanks for your reply.

There is no 720p 25 in the lists of preset when I click where you mention. And there is no option for me to set it myself (apart from selecting from a list of presets- as mentioned- I'm not sure will be good for my project's frame rate of 25.) Check out the grab screen down below.

Do I need to go somewhere to download this preset?

Arg, and I need to export all of this by tomorrow morning...

[tbucks12]

If I export to HD 1080i 25, will it affect the quality as my initial source is progressive?

[eikonoklastes]

I should confess that I have no experience exporting to Blu-ray. Upon looking it up, it seems that there is no defined Blu-ray standard that allows 720p at 25 fps.

As such, I'm not sure what your solution is, and will allow someone else with more knowledge in this matter to respond. You would ideally want to export to something that matches the frame rate of your source sequence, so perhaps 1080i at 25 fps might be the way to go (but please don't hold me to that).

Good luck.

[Averdahl]

If I export to HD 1080i 25, will it affect the quality as my initial source is progressive?

No, exporting 1080p25 to 1080i for Blu-ray authoring wont affect quality. What you will get is a PSF stream of video and the result looks as the original. (PSF=Progressive Segmented Frame)

You really don´t want to export 25fps to 23.976 since that will indeed affect quality, very noticable when there is much motion such as panning the camera.

[Ann Bens]

Follow Averdahl's advice

Dont transcode 25 to 23.976 (keep everything in so-called PAL settings: either 25 or 50)

Your sequence is 1280x720 50p so export to 720p50. That is your best options for these settings.

On a side not your project is set to 'ntsc' (semi colon, pal is set to colon in the timecode)

Post a screenshot of a clip in MediaInfo in treeview.

You may have started with the wrong settings.

In which country do you live?

[tbucks12]

Im so sorry I'm going to be very nooby like since all this time I've been just following my teacher's indications without experimenting around, and always shot and worked and exported everything in 25fps.

Averdahl​ , Sorry, I am so confused with your post, are you saying that exporting to 1080 i (whichever framerate) won't affect the quality and export will look as original, and then saying that I should actually not export a 25fps to 23.976 as it will affect the quality? I am very lost as I'm understanding this as contradictory informations, so I must be missing something.

@ann bens, so basically I can safely export my sequence in HD 1080 i 25 without loosing quality? Or am I loosing quality because I should've originally edited my project in an i sequence? I'm from France, and this bluray should ideally  be played to everywhere in the world, especially Europe and Asia (client's request, but if it's not possible than it should rather work for Europe).

Also, I don't understand what you'd like me to post on treeview, like the settings of just one clip? I'm also not understanding this Mediainfo thing and don't really have time to figure it out, is it okay if I post it here?

[Averdahl]

Sorry, I am so confused with your post, are you saying that exporting to 1080 i (whichever framerate) won't affect the quality and export will look as original, and then saying that I should actually not export a 25fps to 23.976 as it will affect the quality? I am very lost as I'm understanding this as contradictory informations, so I must be missing something.

I am saying that if you have 1080p25 you should export to 1080i25, iow 25 fps should be exported to 25 fps. Yes, the quality will be great.

But, i don´t get what frame size you are working with. One screenshot says 1280x720 while another says 1920x1080. 720p25 won´t work if going to Blu-ray. Exporting 720p25 to 720p50 will works without issues.

Forget everything about exporting to 23.976 in your case.

[tbucks12]

You mean this screenshot?

Isn't it indicating 720p because I selected HD720p from the dropdown export menu on top? I shot on 5d mark 3 so it should definitely be 1080.

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[tbucks12]

Um, and now between which of these 1080 i (1, 2 ?)and 720i (3,4) should I choose from?

(720 i is in case the 1080 i is way too big for a 25 or 50gb bluray)

[Ann Bens]

tbucks12  wrote

You mean this screenshot?

Isn't it indicating 720p because I selected HD720p from the dropdown export menu on top? I shot on 5d mark 3 so it should definitely be 1080.

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Well its not your sequence setting is 720p50.

Lets make it easier:

post a screenshot of a clip selected in the Project Window with Preview open

like this:

[tbucks12]

[Ann Bens]

You started with an incorrect sequence setting.

It should be 1920x1080p 25 frames,

Export to H.264 Blu-ray HD 1080i 25.

[tbucks12]

How is that possible? On premiere pro (CS6), you drag your rushes onto a sequence and they automatically convert it to whatever sequence settings match your footage.

What settings should it have been?

Have I lost quality because of this, or is my film going to be somehow choppy?

[Ann Bens]

I dont know what you did. I do know you did something to set it to a ntsc setting (semi colon).

Anyway:

Make a new sequence by dragging one of those clips into the New Item icon.

Delete clip from timeline

Now copy everything from old sequence into this new one.

Check everything before exporting.

[tbucks12]

Hi everyone,

Thank you kindly for all of your help so far. Thought everything was good to go, got my Bluray prepared in Encore Cs6, etc, generated the folder and then bam, got this error message:

Thanks to which I have missed my deadline AND am currently paying an agency to try to fix it for me. But for you guys who've been following my "story" since the beginning, do you have any ideas from where that might be coming from? Doesn't seem to be any clear solution anywhere online. I need to finish this very very soon, like yesterday, litterally. Arg!

Thank you so much in advance!

[Ann Bens]

Export again from Premiere

Make new project in Encore

Import the two files (audio and video)

make iso (image) and burn to disk with e.g. Imgburn

On a side note: practice with the software first before taking on a job with a deadline.

Premiere and Encore have a steep learning curve, and things dont always go smoothly the first time.

[tbucks12]

Thank you so much for your reactivity Ann Bens.

So the problem with burning a disk image is that I'm not the one who'se going to be burning the bluray, an agency is (as they are 20 BRs to burn and I don't think my machine, nor I, can handle that). They require a Bluray folder which is what I'm trying to input.

What difference will it make to export from premiere and to make a new project in encore if I don't change any of the settings when I export from premiere?

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Ann+Bens  wrote

On a side note: practice with the software first before taking on a job with a deadline.

Premiere and Encore have a steep learning curve, and things dont always go smoothly the first time.

Good idea! I've been working for 6 years as a freelancer on premiere pro (may not look like it !) but encore is indeed a first. The clients didn't know when I took the job what they would like as an output, we agreed to agree when the time came to decide. It's quite a terrible idea, but they are fantastic clients and I couldn't pressure them. To be honest, I thought "it would be fine" when the time came, anyway. At first they wanted DVDs which is something I'm very familiar with. I'm the one who proposed Bluray when I saw how awful the Dvd quality turned out.

[tbucks12]

Tried various things (exporting in VR 2 pass and lowering bitrate to 20mbs and exporting in 1080p 25)

No luck, same error.

Help?

[Ann Bens · Accepted solution]

The only thing I can think of to get the project out of the door is to export to mpeg2 Blu-ray (same settings)

btw 1080p25 is bd illegal.

[tbucks12]

But two different "experts" (editing lecturer and BR burning agency) told me that "it was weird that I should export in 1080p25"

Isn't mpeg2 BR going to be really bad quality? One of those same experts told me exporting in Mpeg2 was going to give me DVD quality.

So according to the below grab screen, I should export in 2?

Do I stick to VR 1 pass or do I put it again to VR 2 pass, or CBR?

[Ann Bens]

But two different "experts" (editing lecturer and BR burning agency) told me that "it was weird that I should export in 1080p25"

No one here told you to export in 1080p25. As said before its bd illegal.

I dont have a solution to your error.

If you cannot get H.264 to work you have no choice but to export to mpeg2.

But you are more then welcome to use other software

2 and stick to the default settings.

It wont be dvd quality, It will slightly less then H.264.

[shooternz]

My question is...why did you choose BluRay?  Video Disks are almost extinct like the Dodo bird.

I assume you have a BR Player and that is how you will show these 2 movies?

Is a file player an option?  Its far easier and the quality is going to be excellent.  eg H264 hi bit rate files.

[tbucks12]

I didn't, clients asked for Bluray. They want to be able to watch it on their bluray player, I suppose.

Can they play a file player on their bluray player?