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Extra program monitor - pPro 2025

Participant ,
Nov 25, 2024 Nov 25, 2024

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I use the dual screen setup in premiere pro. I used to have the ability to create a second monitor on my left screen but it seems I cannot find a way to make it do that now. I use to place it as the second panel under the effects control just beside scopes. 

 

Does anyone know what happened to the extra program monitor?

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LEGEND ,
Nov 25, 2024 Nov 25, 2024

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Are you referring to the Reference monitor? They removed that, as not many users actually used it.

 

You can open the sequence in the Source monitor, as a typical use-replacement. 

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Participant ,
Nov 25, 2024 Nov 25, 2024

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Yes. A monitor that gangs to the program monitor that plays my timeline with the effects applied.

My right monitor lost a 2 grays today and has a very light hue that makes me not trust the grade but my left monitor is an identical monitor just newer and has all of it's grays so i can trust it. 

Right now i slide my program monitor from the right interface to the left screen to check it. But i use to gang a second timeline monitor so i could see it no matter which screen i looked at.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 25, 2024 Nov 25, 2024

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There is the Transmit Out function, which can be turned on/off with a keyboard shortcut. If set in the Preferences panel to that monitor, you could toggle full screen on that monitor on/off.

 

Yea, the Source monitor doesn't show your sequence effects. And learning about them by name makes it more clear to both yourself and others which you're talking about.

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Participant ,
Nov 26, 2024 Nov 26, 2024

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It's a program monitor not the source monitor. As far as I know the source monitor is what you look at your clips in to find out where you want to cut it and then you drag that to the timeline. The program monitor shows you what your timeline looks like including its effects. What I was saying was that I used to have two program monitors active in the same interface. But since the last two updates this seems to have disappeared.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 26, 2024 Nov 26, 2024

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Names matter.

 

That was the Reference monitor I explained above. Essentially a second monitor for sequence displaying. But very few of us used it, so they finally decided it wasn't worth the effort anymore.

 

So we now have the Program Monitor, the Source monitor, and of course, Transmit Out.

 

Personally, I'm running three main monitors and a mini-one used for certain things like ATEM viewing and occasionally a panel of Premiere. Two of the monitor are UI ... main Premierere is on an LG Ultrawide, to the left I've a Dell 1920x1080 with a panel group for Production, Project, Source Monitor & typically Effects panels, and the third is a UHD I use totally as Transmit Out.

 

I've got nine custom workspaces, but with the changes in 25.x to the Properties panel, so that Essential Graphics and other things are now 'there', I think I'll probably drop to maybe four or five.

 

Things change.

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Nov 30, 2024 Nov 30, 2024

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Yeah. Because i had 2 identical monitors, I wanted to have the final results seen on both screens at the same time. I felt as though since they we're both identical their agreement would translate to most screens and playback.  I trust respectable calibratable monitors. 

 

So, on forth to the age of Transmit Out. 

Thanks

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LEGEND ,
Dec 01, 2024 Dec 01, 2024

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I felt as though since they we're both identical their agreement would translate to most screens and playback.  I trust respectable calibratable monitors. 

 

Yea ... lose that.

 

I work for/with/teach pro colorists. Have for around a decade now. The reason there are such strong specifications, and colorists spend more on spectros than you have your entire system ... let alone their Grade 1 Refrerence monitors starting at $10G and up ... is that the image on any one screen is entirely unpredictable.

 

The specs allow you to get close to a "standard" professional image, so that, in relative terms! ... what you see on your screen is relatively the same as other professionally produced media on any one screen. 

 

NOT so that people see what the colorist saw. Because that ain't happening, ever.

 

As has been demonstrated many times, two "identical" monitors, side by side, calibrated with high end spectros, patches & software, fed the identical signal from a Decklink card ... will not show identical images.

 

An iPad on the park bench at noon, and in a darkened bedroom at night, will show the same frame differently because of the way surrounding light influences how we see the screen. How our eyes behave.

 

As colorists are taught off the bat ... no one will ever see the exact same image you did.

 

Because you can't fix gramma's green TV.

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Community Expert ,
Nov 25, 2024 Nov 25, 2024

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Could it be setting in your operating system? Has your operating system changed?

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Nov 25, 2024 Nov 25, 2024

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Which setting would effect having a second program/timeline monitor?

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