Farben nach Export blasser als im Vorschaumonitor

[Sönke Schaack]

Hi!

Wie in den beigefügten Screenshots zu sehen habe ich das Problem, dass meine Color-Correction im Vorschaumonitor in Premiere gut aussieht, nach dem Export aber quasi nicht vorhanden ist. Ich habe die Color-Correction über eine Einstellungsebene gemacht und die Spur ist auch nicht deaktiviert. 

Wenn jemand eine Ahnung hat, woran das Ganze also liegen könnte, dann wäre ich über Hilfe sehr dankbar!

[Sumeet Kumar Choubey]

Hi Sönke Schaack,

Sorry to hear about this. Let us know the version of Premiere Pro that you are using. Have you tried importing the exported video in Premiere Pro & checked if the colors are looking the way they were in the sequence?

Thanks,

Sumeet

[Sönke Schaack]

Hi Sumeet!

Thanks for your fast answer.

The reimported Video looks again like the first screenshot out of premiere. When I upload the video to youtube it has the flat look like after the export. Because of that I would say, that the problem is in premiere. My Version is the 22.3.1 (build 2).

Thanks,

Sönke

[Steven29006726dlre]

Hi Sumeet, is there inbetween any solution for this problem? I have totally the same issue. 

Any help would be super appreciated 🙂

[Daniel30325516gyse]

Hey, is there any solution? 
I habe the same problem and I don't know how to fix this..

[R Neil Haugen]

On Macs, if the image is lighter outside Premiere in say QuickTime Player, the issue isn't Premiere but the display gamma used by Apple for Rec.709 media.

On a proper display with gamma 2.4, that same file will display as you expect. Some Macs have a setting called "HDTV", and that does apply correct gamma.

And Ann's links cover this in detail.

Neil

[Daniel30325516gyse]

It‘s the same on my iPhone display..

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[R Neil Haugen]

Yes, of course  ... an Apple device using gamma 1.96,  rather than the standard 2.4 for displaying Rec.709 video.

Changes to display gamma lift or drop the midtones and shadows most notably.

Again, on a Mac that has an HDTV option for video, you would see the difference, on the same monitor, between the Mac Rec.709 setting unfortunately using 1.96, and the HDTV setting using the correct 2.4. Same file, same monitor.

And note on nearly all non-Mac devices the file will be displayed with correct gamma of 2 4.

In Lumetri you can actually mimic the gamma shift. Go to the color wheels tab, and slide the Mids  brightness control up a bit. That is the equivalent of displaying with a lower gamma.

Now lower the mids brightness a bit, that  mimics using a higher  number gamma.

Neil

[Daniel30325516gyse]

Is there an option to correct the view in premiere? Because the video will be seen by many apple users and it need to be correct exported.

[R Neil Haugen]

First, any colorist learns right off the bat that NO ONE will ever see exactly what they see while grading. You can't even perfectly match two "identical" monitors with a Klein spectro in the same room.

Second, the viewing environment makes a huge difference. Bright room? Bedroom at night? Very different images on the same screen.

Third, if any of the Mac rigs is a few years older, or new with HDTV setting "on", they're going to get the darker version of the current file.

So you have no way of knowing how that image will appear on any potential monitor. That's just Reality.

And yes, it blows big time. But you have never in your life seen exactly what the colorists on any broadcast TV, streaming, or movie screen saw while grading.

That's another dictum of the colorists trade. So they grade to The Standards and ... let it go. You have no control to make it "right" anywhere. If graded tightly to Standards, on any and every screen out there, it will appear looking similar to all other professionally graded materials.

You do realize everything "pro" made, that you view on that Retina, has the same problem as taking the image out of Premiere?

Does it bother you? I doubt you have ever noted it. Because you never saw "the original grade".

So as noted above, put an Adjustment layer over the whole sequence. Pull the Color Wheels Mids brightness down just enough to notice. Export.

And get on with life. It's truly a mess "out there".

Neil

[Ann Bens · Accepted solution]

Premiere Pro V22 - Understanding Color Spaces, HDR, and what that might mean to you - YouTube