Got Color Balance Issue

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Hi, I have this recurring problem that has virtually stopped my editing.

Some color effects have just gone from my Premiere Pro 2021, which are Color Balance, Fast Color Corrector and Three-Way Color Corrector. Until last week, I had no trouble finding and using them in Premiere Pro 2021. 
But, they are not found anymore in the Effects panel. Other color effects are still searchable and usable. It's just the three effects, Color Balance, Fast Color Corrector and Three-Way Color Corrector that are not in my Premiere Pro 2021. Some of my works done with the three effects now show a certain message saying something like, "Color Balance filter is not searchable."
I'd really appreciate it if someone can help me with my problem. 
Thank you

[SundayGladiator]

Gotta reopen this old wound ..

Why on this Green Earth did the developers axe Color Balance (RGB)?!?!?!

This Lumetri business is overkill for what I need. If Photoshop has color balance, Premiere should be verbatim and in sync.

That said, how would I get the 'Obselete' folder bin back into my Premiere. Currently Obselete does not exist - Using Premiere 25.1.0. TIA.

[R Neil Haugen]

Color Balance (RGB) ... as someone who's spent much of the last decade around colorists ... I gotta just say ... "Ughhhh ..."

It wasn't GPU accelerated, the math was always a bit suspect, especially above 8 bit media ... and you can do anything you did with that old weird effect in Lumetri just as fast ... you don't have to use the whole Lumetri panel, you know?

And you can ... and I hope you do! ... both copy/paste from one clip to others, both on sequences and in bins, and make presets to apply to batches in the bins.

Color for most basic stuff should be fast and easy. "Even" with Lumetri.

There are also posts on here, on how to get any of the Obsolete bin effects used in an older version project, update the project to the latest, and then grab the effect from the ECP with a sequence using it, and drag it to the Effects panel.  I think that's the whole process, just look around for it.

But I do not ever recommend using that effect. Period. Ever.

[SundayGladiator]

Ya know, I settled down after my separation anxiety with Color Balance (RGB), and found a good tutorial to adjust skin tones (which was the goal..) using those three color wheel thingys in Lumetri. Got the color to where I want it now.

I appreciate ALL the feedback in this community on a Saturday at 4:30pm PST! I mean what better things to do on a weekend than to learn some Premiere. 😊

[R Neil Haugen]

Hey, that is totally understood around here! I'm still ticked about their killing SpeedGrade back in 2016. Ha! It still does some things better & faster than anything in Lumetri. Yea, I've still got it on a couple machines.

The Color Wheels are quick, that's one method.

There's also the "tint" controls in the Creative tab, you can set the "balance" slider well over to the left so it's just affecting shadows, use the "highlights" tint wheel to set basic color balance, use the shadows wheel to clean up your shadow tints ... with an actual pivot control between them, as that is what that "balance" slider actually is.

And something most don't know about ... in the Curves tab, go to the Hue v Hue curve ... just grab and move that up or down. Your entire color wheel of hues shift around in the Vectorscope. Spiffy for certain workflows as a color balancing tool.

[Isak2505917830oh]

Effects panel > Video Effects > Obsolete > Arithmetic

It's almost like Color Balance.

[R Neil Haugen]

And of course, like all the Obsolete, ot available on the M1 Macs, and soon to not be available on anything. Ancient code. Be careful, much of the Obsolete is there for a good reason.

Neil

[valeriet81668044]

But how do we do, when we need to open an old project using color balances, and we can't use it anymore???

that's vert problematic because then the grading is completly messed up!

i really dont understand why they took it out, it's was very useful

is there a way to install it back? copy the file somewhere from another version?

[R Neil Haugen]

Is this a problem? Yea, certainly, been there done that. I understand the frustration at migrating to newer tools precisely because I've done it so many times.

But I think we need to revisit something that apparently hasn't been stated obviously enough so far  ...

1) That has been listed as Obsolete for years. They have always said anything in the Obsolete folder will go away at some point. So users have been warned repeatedly that using those effects could have problems like ... reopening an old project.

Several of the apps we've used in our business over the many years have had an "obsolete" folder. As soon as something went in there that we used, we immediately migrated to something not in the obsolete folder.

That folder ever only exists for one reason.

2) Software is always evolving and changing. I've been using computer in our business since the late '80's. I've got a drawer with a LOT of installation discs ... "floppys" ... for very expensive software that once was vital for our business, that went outta business itself YEARS ago.

Used dBase recently? No? Go figure ...

So yes, not only with this, but with other things, and for the rest of your life, you will have to migrate any computer-based process forward to something new at some point.

3) They took it out because it was ancient code. And also, the math was not good. Period. Why update something that had a poor math basis? When they already had another, newer code tool, with better math? There is no sense whatever there.

Neil

[valeriet81668044]

well thankfully when activating rosetta on premiere it brings it back!

i haven't read all your msg, too much nonsense blabla explication

the problem was to update of projects, using that effect, and Adobe didn't think of that situation!

[R Neil Haugen]

Bizarre assumption about Adobe. But then, I shouldn't be surprised.

Because I found your reply quite informative.

You are given the specific information in regards to your issue.

You chose to ignore the information. And in reply, made an assumption contrary to the readily available information.

And this is why you are facing the situation you are in.

Neil