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GTX 1050 TI zero usage

New Here ,
Sep 21, 2018 Sep 21, 2018

  Hello all I have premiere 2017 12.1 installed and I have just pushed GTX 1050 Ti to my old Intel i7 16gig buid.

After reading many post here I have disabled integrated intel GPu and only remain is the GTX which GPUSniffer shows as described .

I have a timeline with lumetri and neat video applied over all 2 minutes video

issue is if i render preivew or even render main the gpu does not go beyond 1% or max 3%.

It appears the GPU is not being used.

My renderer is Mercury CUda enabled.

Kindly help    

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LEGEND , Sep 22, 2018 Sep 22, 2018

As you've noted, some things PrPro uses GPU for, and many things it doesn't. GPU use will spike at those moments the CPU sends bits to it, and drop when it doesn't. Having multiple tracks with varying effects can cause alterations in how fast and what is processed.

After a certain point with gear, it's best to start over rather than upgrading components. Mobos are the base ... some are designed in a way that they create roadblocks with complex video processing. You need a working mobo for video,

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LEGEND ,
Sep 21, 2018 Sep 21, 2018

How many cores to the CPU, at what Ghz frequency? As in 4-cores at 2.8Ghz ...

Neil

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New Here ,
Sep 21, 2018 Sep 21, 2018

i7-4770 3.4GHZ

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LEGEND ,
Sep 21, 2018 Sep 21, 2018

That's a 4 core CPU with (compared to newer CPUs) a relatively small cache. With only 4 gigs of RAM per core.

If you're encoding to H.264 especially, that rig may just not run fast enough to really use that 1050. Or the various speeds of the CPU, RAM, and GPU could be set such that they don't mesh as smoothly as possible.

So ... next question ... what's the media on the timeline, and what are you exporting to for format/codec frame-rate/size?

Neil

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New Here ,
Sep 21, 2018 Sep 21, 2018

Imported meda is from

Sony A7sII XAVC 1080 footages shot in Slog2

Output is youtube fullHD preset.

added lumetri to grade basic ways not major warp stabilizer

total 2.5 min timeline for small clip sequence.

The pc is very old

DDR3 8gb 2 modules

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New Here ,
Sep 21, 2018 Sep 21, 2018

whan I enabled the on board and try to render or preview timeline the onboard GPu takes a load at 25%-30% but when I disable the onboard and does same the 1050 GPU does not even take more than 2% of load.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 21, 2018 Sep 21, 2018

That older mobo, RAM, and CPU may not be able to work fast enough to actually use that 1050 much.

Neil

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New Here ,
Sep 21, 2018 Sep 21, 2018

so the 1050 will never got to be used on this pc?

surrised as the onboard gpu stilll works at 15-20% to support process and the 1050 ti not even give a little bit of help in this case.

seems that i made bad move to buy the 1050 ti then to enhance a bit of performance to my pc.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 21, 2018 Sep 21, 2018

On-board at 15-20% is probably not any more than the 1050 at 1-3%. The 1050 can do everything the on-board can do a ton easier/faster. So total GPU usage is probably identical. And as fast as the CPU/subsystems can do their thing and send stuff to the GPU for it's thing.

Neil

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Community Expert ,
Sep 21, 2018 Sep 21, 2018

There's a Premiere Pro Benchmark around PPBM - Last I knew was ppbm8.com but it seems to be down currently. Bill Gehrke​ is the author. You might keep any eye out for it. You can run that, and it will tax your 1050, and you'll get a good idea about your system.

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New Here ,
Sep 22, 2018 Sep 22, 2018

I am clueless as to what to do.

Since the render eats cpu at 100%

GPU at 1/2% each time.

I fresh install Nvidia Drivers clean.

Downgrade Premiere as what people says to 2017 and tried.

no luck with GPU..

Tried Davinci Resolve which took the simple render load to 25/30% on GPU

None Premiere or AE takes up the simple load on GPU and eats CPU at max.

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New Here ,
Sep 22, 2018 Sep 22, 2018

Hey R Neil Haugen​

SO after your review on the old build I assume you are saying that the CPU usage is at bottleneck and GPU isnt taking that share with CPU.

More so Over I am in plan of acquiring the new things.

Would you mind suggesting me the good for the video work .. mainly Wedding output and some commercial for 3-5 min ..

Here is what I am thinking is :

Amd RYZEN 5 2600X

Asus PRIME X470-PRO

2x G.Skill 8GB DDR4 F4-3200C16S-8GVKB

Samsung 970 EVO 250GB M.2 for OS

I have

250GB SSD

GTX 1050 Ti

CircleP Phoenix 5 120mm fan Cabinet.

Do you think thi build will be good for the video editing work ?

Awaiting your kind suggestions.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 22, 2018 Sep 22, 2018

That goes into the AMD side, which I used to know ... but have been built through three rigs on Intel/Nvidia side now since that has been the go-to for the Adobe video apps. AMD is putting out some CPU/GPU/mobo combos now that can work very well with PrPro, and I love competition in all things. But I've no knowledge worth spit on AMD video gear now.

So ... I'd suggest going to the Hardware forum as that crowd does know this stuff cold.

Neil

Hardware Forum ... https://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere/hardware_forum

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New Here ,
Sep 22, 2018 Sep 22, 2018

R Neil Haugen​

I just complete wipe and instll the while system and now I can see that the premiere pro render pushes some load into GPU .

Not that great utilization as it jumps and come back and play around 7-10%..

CPU stays around 85-90% and the temperature rise to 100° C

Now what i Have seen is that plain lumetri and timeline render uses the GPU very well.

If i add one more adjustment layer giving a little bit of Unsharp ask which is non gpu . the GPU utilization drops drastically.

Now taking into consideration does this usually happens when premiere pro fights to understand that there are some GPU based filter to be used by gpu or not ?

I am now at least relaxed it worked and I know my system is too old but just need to know what would be the good to upgrade.    

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LEGEND ,
Sep 22, 2018 Sep 22, 2018
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As you've noted, some things PrPro uses GPU for, and many things it doesn't. GPU use will spike at those moments the CPU sends bits to it, and drop when it doesn't. Having multiple tracks with varying effects can cause alterations in how fast and what is processed.

After a certain point with gear, it's best to start over rather than upgrading components. Mobos are the base ... some are designed in a way that they create roadblocks with complex video processing. You need a working mobo for video, and then one of the relatively few CPUs that work great with video post.

THEN you start adding parts that work well with that CPU/mobo.

Checking the Hardware forum is wise. Talking builds with SafeHarbor Computing and Puget Systems is smart. They build specifically for video post for several specific apps.

Asking across most user forums is a waste of time.

Neil

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