how to roundtrip from Premiere to Photoshop and back while maintaining color consistency

[rachelcenter]

I'm editing a video in premiere. My timeline color is REC709. I export a still frame from my timeline using the export frame button (the one that looks like a camera), bring it into photoshop and then use generative fill on the still frame in photoshop. I hit save (save as a PSD). Color space RBG. then bring it back into premiere and the color of the PSD doesnt match that of the clip on my timeline. Is that because Photoshop doesnt have a REC709 color profile to choose from? I dont want to change the color profile of my premiere timeline because its for television so it needs to stay at rec 709. Any advice for roundtripping from Premiere to Photoshop and back while maintaining color consistency?

[R Neil Haugen]

You need to set the Photoshop CM for that item to Rec.709 in Photoshop. "Straight" sRGB isn't exactly the same.

[rachelcenter]

Pretty sure I tried that once and the colors still didnt match. Do you have a tutorial that I can follow?

[R Neil Haugen]

So get screen grabs of your Photoshop overall CM settings, and the dialog of CM for that item.

And your Premiere CM settings, basically the entire Settings tab of the Lumetri panel.

[rachelcenter]

I'll try to get you those tomorrow!!!!

[rachelcenter]

premiere color management sequence settings

when I press export frame in premiere this is the jpg it produces. If I take that jpg that it saved on the desktop and do "command i" for info, it says "color space: RGB" (not rec 709). So perhaps that my first issue.... So instead of using the export frame button. I went to the export dialogue window in premiere to export the jpg. But this time

i made sure the "export color space" drop down say rec 709 instead of rgb. But when I go to the desktop and do command i again for info, the info window says "color space: rgb, color profile: rec.709 gamme 2.4". So that seems odd that it says rgb and rec 709.... this seems so complicated just to maintain a color profile to round trip from premiere to photoshop and back

When that jpg export was done, I didnt drag the jpg onto the photoshop icon to open it. Instead I went to photoshop and chose "new". There's a lot of rec 709 choices to choose from under color profile so I chose this one: HDTV (Rec. 709) 16-235.

Then I pressed "create" to create a new canvas with those settings. Then I dragged my exported JPG onto the canvas. the header at the top of my canvas says "rgb/8" and not rec 709

I used generative fill to remove the image in photoshop. then I did "save as" photoshop file. And at the bottom of the save dialogue window, I can see a checkmark next to "embed color profile: hdtv (Rec. 709) 16-235

I drag the PSD file into premiere and stack it on top of my footage. and the psd is still significantly darker than the footage. here is a split screen to show the difference. What am i doing wrong? Why is this so complicated?

[rachelcenter]

If I export the still image from premiere, then bring it back into premiere and leave photoshop out of this, the color is identical. So the issue has to be in photoshop somewhere, with the colorspace. trying to find where though.

[rachelcenter · Accepted solution]

Here is the solution: make sure you choose rec 709 gamma 2.4 in photoshop

[R Neil Haugen]

Yup ... as you have to have both the color space/primaries of sRGB, and the display transform assumed of gamma 2.4. Then you have an actual Rec.709 image. It isn't just the sRGB color space/primaries.