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Loudness Radar in Premiere Pro CC 2017 for CALM compliance

New Here ,
Sep 11, 2017 Sep 11, 2017

I have a TV spot that's been flagged as being too loud for CALM compliance. In looking at other posts re: this issue, most are from older versions of PP so not sure they apply to my situation.

I'm trying to pull up the the Loudness Radar and have not been successful. I can see it in the Audio Track Mixer, but can't pull up the radar graphic to verify visually the effect. Even so, when I set the Loudness Radar to -19 (the requirement) in the Master Track, I can't hear any difference when I turn the effect on and off.

Could anybody out there help me with this? I'm not an audio guy so I'm out of my comfort zone here.

Thanks!

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Valorous Hero , Sep 11, 2017 Sep 11, 2017

Again, the Loudness Radar doesn't do anything to your audio. It's a measurement tool to let you know where your program stands, and in your case it's too loud. Your overall measurement is -21.2 LKFS, which is more than the ±2 dB you're allotted. With the ATSC A/85 preset, -24 is where things start to go yellow and your whole program should be floating around -24, yours is too loud. You need to lower your levels so they fall in the -24 range.

A limiter should be applied after to catch any errant

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Community Expert ,
Sep 11, 2017 Sep 11, 2017

The loudness radar does not change any levels, it just tells you what they are. It is a real time meter so you have to add the radar to the master track in the track mixer as an effect, open the radar and then play the entire spot. The radar will then show you the loudness level, you then have to adjust the master fader to make the loudness what you want.

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New Here ,
Sep 11, 2017 Sep 11, 2017

Thanks for the thorough answer, Richard. Just to make sure I understand, if I go with the settings you suggest (and required by the spec sheet I have), do I then just render my video and those settings will be applied? (See attached screen caps.)

I wasn't totally sure about how to set the Hard Limiter, but it looked like that was covered in the settings (last one in the middle image).

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Valorous Hero ,
Sep 11, 2017 Sep 11, 2017

Again, the Loudness Radar doesn't do anything to your audio. It's a measurement tool to let you know where your program stands, and in your case it's too loud. Your overall measurement is -21.2 LKFS, which is more than the ±2 dB you're allotted. With the ATSC A/85 preset, -24 is where things start to go yellow and your whole program should be floating around -24, yours is too loud. You need to lower your levels so they fall in the -24 range.

A limiter should be applied after to catch any errant levels that might be too loud. See the attached screenshot for where that is. This does not mix your audio, it is a final step. Once applied, switch the radio button to "True Peak" and the Maximum Amplitude to -2 dB. This will only limit levels above -2 dB unless you have your Input Boost set to something other than 0 dB. Input boost will raise your entire signal up, but you will still get limited at -2 dB, so if you find that your audio is louder after applying the Hard Limiter, check that setting.

Neither of these tools are substitutes for a proper mix.

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New Here ,
Sep 11, 2017 Sep 11, 2017

Okay, great. This is very helpful for someone such as myself who doesn't delve too deeply into audio.

Thanks so much!

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Valorous Hero ,
Sep 11, 2017 Sep 11, 2017

You're welcome! I should clarify that the Limiter should be applied after you do your mix, not after the Loudness Radar, which should be the very last thing in the chain. When you're all finished you should be able to watch your program in real-time with the Radar Going (you can refresh it's reading by hitting the button near the top-right of the plug-in) and watch it go round and round. If you have a program that's longer than 60 seconds go back into the settings and change the Radar Speed from 1 min to something else. This way you'll be able to capture the overall levels of your entire program.

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Explorer ,
Sep 17, 2018 Sep 17, 2018
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davidarbor  wrote

A limiter should be applied after to catch any errant levels that might be too loud.

Great tip.  I use the Hard Limiter plugin all the time to fine tune my master output to the exact peak limit and loudness specs I want.

Quick Fix = Use Hard Limiter for both loudness fix and peak fix.  Use a + or - value for "Input Boost" to make your mix louder or softer to correct the loudness, then set the "Maximum Amplitude" (Peaks) to the value required by your broadcaster.

Step-by-step:

  • Let's say you are submitting video to a TV station for broadcast
  • TV station says "Audio must be -24LKFS and no peak can exceed -8dBTP"
  • Insert a Hard Limiter and Loudness Radar on your master audio channel
  • Measure the loudness with the Loudness Radar - remember this is a meter ONLY.  It will only measure what you have, not change it to be louder or softer.
  • For your mix, it's a simple math problem: You got a loudness of -21.2 LKFS, you need to turn it down to -24 LKFS, so -21.2 - (-24) = 2.8 dB further reduction needed (LKFS loudness units are roughly equivalent to dBs)
  • On the Hard Limiter use the following settings: True Peak, Maximum Amplitude = -8, Input Boost = -2.8
  • Check your loudness again on the radar, and you will be at -24 LKFS or extremely close.

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davidarbor​

I think your sentence above could be a little more clear: "A limiter should be applied after [adjusting your mix level to the desired loudness] to catch any errant [peak] levels that might be too [high]"

REMEMBER:

  • Peak Level = Instantaneous Amplitude (level) of the audio wave
  • True Peak = For digital audio, the actual peak of an audio wave between 2 audio sample values may be higher than either sample value so use True Peak wherever possible to further protect exceeding the peak limits of broadcasters/gear.  Do a Google Image Search for "Audio True Peak" to see a graph that shows this clearly.
  • Peak Levels ARE NOT a good indication of loudness and thus a peak audio meter is not a good measure of loudness.  Humans perceive loudness more as an average over time.  Short peaks have very little effect of how loud audio may be perceived. RMS or VU audio meters do a better job of approximating loudness than peak audio meters.  You will notice a RMS or VU meter moves more smoothly and slowly.  You don't see the highest peaks or the lowest dips.  This is closer to the loudness characteristics our ears hear.
  • LKFS meters take this a couple steps further.  In addition to smoothing out peaks like RMS and VU meters do, the K stands for K-weighted which takes into account that we are more sensitive to certain frequencies and so the frequency content of audio will also affect how loud we perceive it to be.

So, when talking about Peaks, avoid speaking in terms of loudness since loudness and peaks are somewhat independent.  You can manipulate the audio (for example, with the Hard Limiter) so that it has lower peaks and yet is louder, and also vice-versa (with an expander) so that you have higher peaks, yet softer audio.

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Valorous Hero ,
Sep 11, 2017 Sep 11, 2017

The Loudness Radar should be applied to your Master Track via the Audio Track Mixer. You can click one of the empty slots, go to Special>Loudness Radar

Double-click it to open and set your preset the correct standard.

The radar doesn't do anything to your levels except monitor them. You need to mix your levels properly, and then for good and safe measure, throw a Hard Limiter on the Master Track (above your Radar) to make sure nothing does over the requested levels. Your spec sheet should tell you everything you need to know, but the CALM act specifies the below:

  • In accordance with ATSC A/85 RP, loudness levels should be -24 LKFS. Minor measurement variations of up to approximately ±2 dB about this value are anticipated, due to measurement uncertainty, and are acceptable.
  • The true-peak level should be kept below –2 dB TP (True Peak: the maximum absolute level of the signal waveform in the continuous time domain, measured per ITU-R BS. 1770 Annex 3) in order to provide headroom to avoid potential clipping due to downstream processing.

So you should be using the ATSC A/85 preset in the meter, and then add the Hard Limiter to your Master Track and click the "True Peak" radio button and change your settings based on the second bullet point.

These are the steps that should be followed after you mix your levels properly for broadcast. Your mix could be too low and the limiter won't fix it, or it could be way too loud and the limiter will clamp your levels but you might get clipped audio. Make sure to mix so you're just barely hitting the yellow area when the Radar is playing back. Also note, that you have ±2 dB to work with around your -24 LKFS levels (which can be seen in the Radar). All the information is there, but it's definitely different to look at if you're not used to working with the Loudness Radar.

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