Multicam Editing - is there a keyboard command for Select Next/Previous Angle

[Premiopolis]

Multicam Editing - is there a command for Select Next/Previous multicam angle

I figured this command must be lurking somewhere but have so far no luck in uncovering them.

Are they hiding somewhere under a disguised -- or even obvious -- name?

[excited_Genie16B8]

I'm not aware of such relative commands.  Instead, they're are more direct.  Choose the angle you want - 1, 2, 3 etc.

[Premiopolis]

That was my impression as well.  I'm familiar with it from Avid where rolling through different angles relative to one another frequently, though not always, ends up being a more efficient approach than choosing cameras absolutely.

1 - Uses only 2 keyboard shortcuts

2 - When there are lots of angles from roving cameras and Cam 1, 2, 3 isn't really the logic of the production

3 - When the mouth-breathing producer sitting beside you says "next camera"

4 - To switch audio independently from video.

The current project I'm on would benefit from it.

Interestingly, over on Avid there it's tied to "track activators" (Avid) (i.e. "track targeting" buttons (PPro))

PPro is less track activator-centric / more timeline selected-clip centric.

So t=he same basic concept applied to PPro would, assuming it followed the PPro paradigm, actually be more efficient than Avid.

In other words, to use the feature in Avid requires regular jockeying of the track activators -- meaning a mouse-swing away from the point of focus in the timeline.  Whereas PPro's "clip-selected" paradigm would allow you to click-and-edit where you're already looking.

And a feature like this added to PPro's oh-so-excellent ability to select, slide and trim clips live without stopping timeline playback would only add to an already growing robustness.

Feature request coming soon.

[excited_Genie16B8]

PPro's "clip-selected" paradigm would allow you to click-and-edit where you're already looking.

It works that way now.  In addition to keyboard selection, you can click the angle you want in the Monitor.

[Premiopolis]

Jim_Simon  wrote

It works that way now.  In addition to keyboard selection, you can click the angle you want in the Monitor.

Not my experience.  Here's what I've got on that...

Keyboard-based camera switching in PPro...

- Is not sensitive to selected timeline clips.

- Is only sensitive to the timeline Track Activator buttons

- Cannot target more than one picture track, regardless of how many track activators are selected

- Cannot target sound tracks at all.

- Does not respond to any modifier keys

- Is "cut to" only (as opposed to "switch to") (i.e. by contrast: selecting cameras by GUI clicks in the record monitor in multicam view mode gives the option to switch an entire timeline segment (regular click) or "cut and switch" at the playhead point (Command / Ctrl-Click)

Looking forward to being proven mistaken on any of that.

Are there some easter eggs I'm unaware of?

[excited_Genie16B8]

Keyboard-based camera switching in PPro...

...is not really relevant to my second point, which specifies mouse-based camera selection.

You can click on the camera angle in the Program Monitor to "click-and-edit where you're already looking."

[Trevor_Asq]

There’s no cut or select next/previous camera that I know of. Excellent FR to submit (also right click to select cam angle works well in Avid)

there is the choice of cutting to camera and ‘selecting’ the camera in PP.

Multicam audio in PP is the devils work and should be approached with caution. I’ve yet to do a big entertainment edit with multiple audio ISO’s which would make me have to figure out the way to make it work. Currently I flatten all the iso mics into the main edit.

[Premiopolis]

Trevor_Asq  wrote

Multicam audio in PP is the devils work and should be approached with caution.

A coffee-through-nostrils spot-on hilarious way to describe the experience.

Multicam sound actually works, even with very complex sound sources, but to comprehend it fully means working through PPro's elaborately-conceived audio architecture, which is at once thorough & brilliant and then (at certain key painful points) exasperatingly counterintuitive.  It is very close to outperforming Avid, but for now in its 'missed it by THAT much' state.

[Trevor_Asq]

Here's a screen grab of the choices... Plus you can right click and switch cameras, my mistake. Be nice if they rearranged the multicam audio so you could name tracks and thus right click audio and choose different mics.

[Premiopolis]

Thanks again, Trevor_Asq.

Where a Next / Prior option would be preferable is with a monster multicam sequence with more than 9 or 16 cameras.  We were testing one a few days back -- 47 sources -- fully expecting it to fail and crash the system.  It didn't crash, but it did ultimately fail and for reasons that were rather unexpected.

Posting about it here: https://forums.adobe.com/message/9941468#9941468

Meanwhile here's the Feature Request (http://www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html)

For Multicamera editing a commands for Select & Cut To  - Prior Camera / Next Camera

How would you like the feature to work?

4 new keyboard-mappable commands:

Select Next Camera

Select Prior Camera

Cut To Next Camera

Cut To Prior Camera

Generally speaking I prefer to rotate through cameras via keyboard short cut than via mouse click or the camera specific commands like Cut To Camera 1 / Select Camera 2.

This is not mean as a replacement for the existing commands, rather in addition to them to be mapped depending on user taste.

Why is this feature important to you?

More options when editing multicam