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New Export Panel

New Here ,
Apr 27, 2022 Apr 27, 2022

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is there a way to go back to the previous Export Panel, this new one does not fit with personalised workspaces... thanx

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Adobe Employee , Apr 27, 2022 Apr 27, 2022

Hey Massimiliano5FBB,

 

My apologies for the inconvenience, only way to go back to the previous export panel would be to install the previous version of Premiere Pro (v22.2). You can find the guide to do so here.

I have noted your feedback and will share it with the team. You may also post your suggestions at the UserVoice.

 

Regards,

Ishan

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Adobe Employee ,
Apr 27, 2022 Apr 27, 2022

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Hey Massimiliano5FBB,

 

My apologies for the inconvenience, only way to go back to the previous export panel would be to install the previous version of Premiere Pro (v22.2). You can find the guide to do so here.

I have noted your feedback and will share it with the team. You may also post your suggestions at the UserVoice.

 

Regards,

Ishan

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Participant ,
Apr 27, 2022 Apr 27, 2022

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I liked the old one better as well:

I have one huge monitor I work with and the New Project / Import / Export panels are a real pain on it. I always have to switch back and force between full screen or not now.

Also i don't see an option in the import window to retain the the disc's folder structure in the project without manually creating bins. I have no idea what all these changes are good for.

 

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Community Expert ,
Apr 27, 2022 Apr 27, 2022

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There is no reason to use the new project creation process differently than you did before. Truly.

 

Give you project a Name, Location, and click Create. Then import via Project panel or MediaBrowser as before.

 

Some users will like the new import page. I can see how it can be useful for some workflows. It only allows one "bin" though and the sort thing puzzles me at times. So I'll be working as before, Name/locate/create.

 

And for the Export page, if you put the time in to both unstar all the presets and create your own in full details, it works fine. It is annoying to need the dropdow 'more' options, so I made sure my presets included anything from "down there".

 

And of course, as Ann notes, the Me export is the same old one. So you can queue to Me.

 

Neil

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Participant ,
Apr 27, 2022 Apr 27, 2022

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Hi Neil,

all this is true but it does not meet my complaints: The design is pure nonsense. It will be allright for a 24 inch full HD monitor but it is not for a 49 inch monitor with 5120x1440 resolution. The designers should think about solutions which work in all environments. And hopefully they will not stumble into the Avid-trap - GUI puerility instead of substantial improvements.

And what is an import window good for which only allows one bin? Like you i will be "working as before, Name/locate/create", import as before and live with the flaws of the new export window.

That is what I meant to say: I can't see what all this is good for.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 27, 2022 Apr 27, 2022

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There are a ton of users with simpler projects. They need to grab some media, do a quick bit of editing, through some graphics on, push it out. This import process for many of those will be awesome.

 

I just got back to the room from the last day of NAB here in Vegas. Had some good time visiting and working from Patrick, Francis, Victoria & Christine (Ae) and a number of engineers. And talking with people & friends in the BlackMagic booth, the aisles.

 

The feedback on the new UI from a lot of users has been very good. And it seems from a number of other users, this sucks. Which they acknowledge was a given going in. There were a couple glitches not intended, like the filenames not showing during export operations, which will get fixed. There are other things they're considering changing.

 

Like the short distance we can 'grab' the bar separting worskpaces off to the right. I pointed at it, and said ... um, see all this dead space between the project name & Workspace bar? Why can't I move that over so I can see all my 9 workspaces?

 

Both looked at it, and said ... yea, that should be changed ... this makes no sense.

 

So that might get changed. And I heard engineers and users talking several other options for changing the UI or what something here does when you do something there. Was a good bit of discussion going on.

 

As to your situation, wow ... a 49" monitor! I've got four monitors and the biggest is a 32", so ... just ... wow!

 

When they are making the UI, they know it will get used on screens that are 14" diagonal to monsters like yours. On people with multiple like me. But there's only so much they can do to make this look 'good' on a monster and a tiny laptop at the same time.

 

I was pushing them on getting Pr to recognize monitors ... so if we put a panel group on a second monitor, we can simply 'maximize' the monitor and it will fill that screen without bleed on another. They were nodding, and saying that would make a lot of sense but they would have to check the work required. Budgets always being the controlling factor.

 

Neil

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Community Expert ,
Apr 27, 2022 Apr 27, 2022

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Send your timeline to AME then you can use the old fashioned export settings.

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New Here ,
May 02, 2022 May 02, 2022

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I hate it too. Mostly because there's two separate clicks now to name and then place your file. Before I could find the folder of my Project, click the name of my Premier File to automatically name my file and save it it in place. Now I gotta do the pre-work of copying and pasting the name from Finder to name it in the export window (which I didn't realize is just some overlayed thing on my Premier File, and when exiting out of it, I'm actually closing all of Premier). I'm sure in some aspects this new export panel is fancier and clearer, but in the everyday, constant actions I take, it is WAY more annoying.

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Community Expert ,
May 02, 2022 May 02, 2022

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As noted in many places, the missing filenames is "an unfortunate oversight", never intended, and soon will be gone in another patch.

 

If you take the time to unstar all the stupid presets you'll never use, and create detailed presets you do use with all options 'down below' set as you need, the new Export dialog works. Mostly. (With the caveat noted above.)

 

If you don't, it's a total pain in the tush.

 

Otherwise, Send to Me, get the old one. And of course, it doesn't interrupt your working in Premiere while the export is going out.

 

Neil

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New Here ,
May 23, 2022 May 23, 2022

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I can't understand who thought this new UI was a good idea - its truly awful. I have reverted back to version 22.2 until it is fixed. The worst complaint of it is that if you go to export then change your mind there is no way to cancel the export! Adobe is a joke and this from a 20+ year user.

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Explorer ,
May 23, 2022 May 23, 2022

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I'm not disagreeing with your sentiment, and believe Adobe does not have the best interests of professional editors at heart these days - but, there are 2 non-obvious solutions to exiting the Export non-window (or whatever Adobe wants to call the UX that takes up an entire screen).

 

1. Hit ESC. It takes you back to your timeline.
2. Click the Edit button on the new header bar. The word Edit is located directly below the Edit menu, which makes it unbelievable that not a single dev or tester questioned why placing the word Edit in the header bar right below the 30 year old Edit menu might confuse users.

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Community Expert ,
May 23, 2022 May 23, 2022

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It's easy to cancel the export ... just not necessarily obvious. Like a lot of things with this new UI.

 

Simply click on the Edit page tab, and you leave the Export page and go right back to where you were editing the project.

 

In talking with the staffers at NAB, there clearly were a lot of assumptions about how users would adapt around the new UI that well, some users did, but many ... didn't. Assumptions always being fraught with potential problems, you know?

 

Like ... they assumed any experienced user would look at the new import page, go ... nah ... and simply type a project name, select a location, click create ... and use the Project panel or MediaBrowser to import as we always have.

 

But many users didn't realize we could simply skip most of this "page" the way we skipped most of the old dialog. Name/Location/Create ... it wasn't obvious to us.

 

And the export ... they seem to figure that there's more space left-right on most monitors than vertical. So ... options start at the right, for 'type' of export ... then export details ... then the preview monitor to the right. With the previous scroll-down for more export details turned into a "more" button.

 

But that's not the way we 'think' about the process, so ... yea it 'feels' odd, and the blasted "more" button drives most of us nuts.

 

To use this, I think most users will need to spend some time in customization. Unstar all the presets you won't use. Make detailed versions of all the presets you will use, for various purposes. Then it actually works ok.

 

Or simply Send to MediaEncoder. And in Me's Queue panel, click the file name, you get the old exprot dialog box.

 

Neil

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Adobe Employee ,
May 24, 2022 May 24, 2022

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In regards to the complaints about Export mode not allowing you to chose a name from a previous export as a starting place for the name . . . this issue has been fixed and you can test it in public beta right now.  We have implimented a "Save As" dialog instead of just a simple location picker which we had before.  This allows you to set the name in the same step as choosing the location including the ability to click on a previous file to copy the name.  We ususally don't promise when a fix will be released, but I can say that we intend to get this into the very next patch release since this is causing such a headache for so many people. Many appologies for the inconvenience.

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Community Expert ,
May 24, 2022 May 24, 2022

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Francis,

 

On my PC, on beta build 22.5.0 build 40 ... I'm not seeing any "save as ..." option, I get what has been happening. A blank folder window. Period.

 

Neil

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Community Expert ,
May 24, 2022 May 24, 2022

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Finally found the new 'save as' option ... it's a tiny phrase in the upper left corner of that first dialog that opens when you click the filename of the export.

 

One rather major issue ... past it is SO not obvious a process ... it only shows media in the same format as the current export!

 

Um ... so, you're now wanting to make an H.264 deliverable of your master file ... but the master is a ProRes therefore mov ... and you can't see mov filenames with an H.264 export.

 

For me, that's rather a problem.

 

Neil

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New Here ,
Sep 08, 2022 Sep 08, 2022

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5 important aspects of the new export panel

 

1. Publishing - almost positive experience

Much more visible and easy to work with, unless the publish settings are all saved in a preset (this is why we make presets) and choosing that preset does not activate the correct publish settings (like which yt playlist needs to be selected or which ftp account).

 

2. Canceling the export - negative experience

Export is now a tab inside a panel (with home button and other things we don't need to see), is not a window, so cancel the export action does not work with Esc key, you need to look up that said (nameless, unselectable and unmoveable) panel and go to Edit tab. Hint: shift+3 is my shortcut to see the timeline -- DOES NOT WORK from export Tab. There is NO shortcut for Edit Tab.

 

3. Video settings - negative experience

Important aspects are now cuccumbered under more click scroll actions. We start from a preset, that's fine, but some things need to be changed or tuned quite frequently. The export bitrate is hidden under video, then under more. The More button has to die.

 

Presets and format - what an antagonistic experience - First off, presets shown are based on Format, so Format must be first in line to change. After Format is choosen, we have the "most" common presets for that format shown, but we must click the more button to discover more presets which opens in a New Window... DICK design.

 

4. Navigation - neutral experience

Seriously now, it's not all about mouse experience, keys like PgUP or Home or Down key need to react in the Export panel.

Also - now there is a nameless new panel in our layout occuping space.

 

5. Customization - negative experience

Nothing is moveable, hidden-able, sortable from preferences nor resizeable.

What shortcuts can we use to choose between deciding to send to media encoder or to export directly?

 

Overall experience: BAD.

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Sep 08, 2022 Sep 08, 2022

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Great post. Detailed, accurate.

 

And that #3 is why I suggest that you make presets for every variant of a format/codec choice you would regularly use. After "un-favoriting" ALL built-in presets.

 

A tedious process? Yes, but a one-time process. Then you only rarely need to click "more".

 

Neil

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