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Open Captions won't update changes

New Here ,
Jun 08, 2017 Jun 08, 2017

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Hello,

I'm making a video for an important client. They send me a correction list with minimum corrections on the captions. The frustrating problem is that when I apply those corrections, some are changed, but some are not. And if I close the program, after saving all my work, and open it again, the changes are gone.

I really think it is a bug and it is really frustrating for the client also to see that some mistakes are still in the captions, and for me to keep on going through the video several times to see these random mistakes are still there even though I corrected them before.

Anybody with the same problem?

Thanks in advance.

Antonio

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jun 08, 2017 Jun 08, 2017

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I have tested the open caption in Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2017 V11.0 on MAC...and mine is working fine.

Trying Exporting the captions in .xml from file > export > captions and open it in text edit on mac or notepad in windows.

Than import it back into premiere pro (but it will import the caption in 720 X 480 resolution, so you will have to right click on the imported caption after replacing with the old caption in the timeline to SCALE TO FRAME SIZE).

You can also edit the captions after importing the .xml into Premier pro.

I hope this solve your problem.

Vishu Aggarwal
Adobe Certified Instructor, Professional and Expert

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New Here ,
Apr 16, 2018 Apr 16, 2018

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I'm using PP CC v12.1.0. And open captions still has many bugs.

Edits I make sometimes update immediately on the screen. At other times, changes don't appear at all. You can see the change in the thumbnail list, but not on screen.

Anytime italics and normal are used in one caption, the font changes and the non-italicized words are positioned slightly lower than the italicized ones.

So many bugs.

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New Here ,
Jan 10, 2019 Jan 10, 2019

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I'm having the exact same issues. Open captions changes don't update properly. Won't save word revisions, formatting (centering), and the positioning gets wonky too. Did you ever find a fix?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 10, 2019 Jan 10, 2019

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What specific dot version of PR are you using? There have been changes and fixes to captions in many of the recent releases.

However, the problem of "unresponsive" changes still occurs as of the most recent version (2019.0.2).

The problem is unpredictable, and no single workaround is consistent.

See this thread.

Re: Can't change captions color

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New Here ,
Jan 11, 2019 Jan 11, 2019

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Hi!

Version 12.1.2.


So many issues with the captions - editing them wouldn't work, then I re-uploaded them into my timeline and I could finally make edits that would save (with the exception of alignment - centering it never seems to work especially when I've made the caption two lines - it always left aligns which looks pretty crappy... I also don't see any options for adjusting line spacing).

I think at this point making captions line by line in Photoshop is more ideal...

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 11, 2019 Jan 11, 2019

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There are problems...

When making captions/subtitles "by hand" to be burned in, rather than with using the captioning tool, you can use the Essential Graphics as titles. If the goal is burning in, the quality is better.

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New Here ,
Jan 11, 2019 Jan 11, 2019

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What does burning in mean?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 11, 2019 Jan 11, 2019

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Open Captions (compared to Closed Captions) have only 2 options when exporting the sequence: None (ignore) or "Burn in" (include the captions in the actual video stream). You can also export an Open Caption stream from the Project Panel as a srt or stl file.

Alternatively, when exporting from the sequence, Closed Captions can be burned in, ignored, embedded, or exported as a sidecar.

You must know you final goal(s) when deciding the caption type to use in your project and how it is going to be exported from PR.

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 06, 2020 Mar 06, 2020

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I found that captions will only update if they are not placed on the timeline. So after you import the captions double click them in the bin and edit them before you put them on the timeling. Or remove them from your timeline. Edit  when the are in the bin, and place them on your timeline again.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 14, 2020 Nov 14, 2020

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That's what I did. Still doesn't work completely: dragging to the timeline shows no changes. But if I restart Premiere first, the changes do take! Whoohoo!

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Mar 06, 2020 Mar 06, 2020

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Kees, every workaround is worth a try when a user is plagued by this issue. But since this thread, I determined that one way to produce the "won't update in program or source monitor" problem is to duplicate the caption stream. I just tested (in PR 2020.0.2, Win 10), and even with your method, the caption changes in a duplicate stream do not update.

 

I can still not produce the problem reliably in an original stream, so I can't test your method. Because individual instances of caption streams are coded in the project file itself, I think you may be onto something.

 

Stan 

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New Here ,
Feb 09, 2021 Feb 09, 2021

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So I couldn't see changes reflected in premiere, so I rendered them out anyway with AME and... the changes are in the rendered video... still can't see them in Premiere. WYSINWYG

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 26, 2021 Oct 26, 2021

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i am having this problem in PPro 2021 (15.4.1). i am creating burned in designed captions for social using the auto transcribe feature. but whenever i make an edit to the caption (add a comma, edit a word, etc) only some of them update and take effect. 

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Oct 26, 2021 Oct 26, 2021

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There are other, newer threads regarding this problem that only occurs for some users. But I cannot find the newest thread regarding workarounds. Try searching for "reverts" (as in, edit reverts top original text).

 

I think the workaround is to NOT edit in the text panel but in the Program Monitor. This worked for some users that have this problem.

 

Stan

 

 

 

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Oct 26, 2021 Oct 26, 2021

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fantastic! thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction. i look around using those terms. thanks again!

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