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Pictures appear wider when put on a timeline?

Explorer ,
Jan 04, 2018 Jan 04, 2018

Many times I have put pictures from my camera onto a timeline after they have been put thru the image processor in Photoshop.   The mismatch usually leaves a gap on the sides and I fill that in with a gray background.   That has always worked well.  This time I am using pictures from a relatives camera.  The pictures from this camera are 2560 x 1920.  After the processing they were at 1440 by 1080.  Again I intended using a gray background on the sides.   When I put these pictures on a 1920 x 1080 timeline, the pictures filled the width of the screen making everything appear very wide.    I tried this using a 1440 x 1080 timeline, same problem. 

Can anyone tell me what is going on?  What am I missing?

Thanks for your suggestions,

Duane

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LEGEND , Jan 04, 2018 Jan 04, 2018

Make sure your images have a 1.0 Pixel Aspect Ratio in both programs.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 04, 2018 Jan 04, 2018

When you say wider do you mean stretched? Or do you mean that the image is so big that you can't see all of it in your Program Panel after placing the picture on your sequence timeline? Maybe posting some screenshots along with your description might be helpful.

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Explorer ,
Jan 05, 2018 Jan 05, 2018

Thanks for your response.  I left another message that I hope will clarify the issue

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Community Expert ,
Jan 05, 2018 Jan 05, 2018

I believe you should try selecting your clip in the Project Panel. Then in your pull down menus pull down the "Clip" Menu and choose "Modify" > "Interpret Footage..." (This can also be done by a RIGHT+CLICK on the clip in your project bin).

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Once there look for "Pixel Aspect Ratio" and click the "Conform to:" radial button then select Square Pixels (1.0)"

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You can also change the Pixel Aspect Ration of you sequence by Right+Click on the sequence in you Project Panel and choosing "Sequence Settings" and then under the "Video" heading you can choose the Pixel Aspect Ratio.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 04, 2018 Jan 04, 2018

Make sure your images have a 1.0 Pixel Aspect Ratio in both programs.

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Explorer ,
Jan 05, 2018 Jan 05, 2018

Jim, thanks for your response.  I left another message that was much more descriptive of the problem.  The problem is with the picture aspect ratio.   It does not seem to be constrained.  Is that possible?  I have used Photoshop to chop down the size of pictures to 1080 before with on problem.  These pictures look fine in a Microsoft viewer.   When they are put in a 1920 timeline with a picture aspect ratio of 1.000 they widen up from 1440 to the full width of 1920.  Then then have a new picture aspect ratio of 1.333.  How can a timeline that is suppose to have a PAR of 1.000 go to 1.333?   Is there a way to constrain the PAR?

Regards,

Duane

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LEGEND ,
Jan 05, 2018 Jan 05, 2018

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Jim, thanks for your response.  I left another message that was much more descriptive of the problem.

I saw it.  We all did.  Everything you post is visible to everyone.

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Explorer ,
Jan 07, 2018 Jan 07, 2018

Jim, as it turned out the image processor in Photoshop started with a picture with an aspect ratio of 1.0 and converted the picture aspect ratio to 1.333 when it was reduced.  To get around this problem, I resized my pictures to 1439 x 1079 and they came out 1.0.  Apparently the pictures from the older camera do not process properly in the PS or LightRoom  image processor.  Even though the pictures started out as 1.0, the image processor changes the ratio on these pictures to 1.333.  So far this is the only camera that I have come across that has that happen to their pictures.  All the other pictures from other cameras I have processed through the image processors keep the ratio at 1.0

This was a good lesson to be learned.  I have always thought that if you start at 1.0, the image processor would produce 1.0.  Wrong!  Next time I see a distorted image on a timeline, I will check the aspect ratio first.

Thanks,

Duane

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LEGEND ,
Jan 07, 2018 Jan 07, 2018
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the image processor changes the ratio on these pictures to 1.333. 

It's more likely you did that without realizing it.  Might want to read up on the manual for those programs.  Adobe CC software is very complex and difficult to "figure out".

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Adobe Employee ,
Jan 05, 2018 Jan 05, 2018

Hi dtwo centurylink.net,

As suggested by gerikp10383985, please post a screenshot to understand the issue better. Here are the instructions: FAQ: How do I capture and post a screen shot or video?

Thanks,

Vidya.

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Explorer ,
Jan 05, 2018 Jan 05, 2018

Thanks everyone for your response.   From the looks of your answers, I did not state enough in my first message.  The pictures were changed to 1440 x 1080.  I used the option to select sequence from the image.  The pictures looked stretched in width.  The height was ok.  When I reviewed your answers, I looked at the pixel aspect ratio.  Everyone one of the 1440 x 1080 have a pixel aspect ratio of 1.333.   This is why the pictures appear wider. 

So I switched the sequence to 1920 x 1080.  On most of these sequences the picture aspect ratio is 1.000.   I have used this sequence from my own camera that produced pictures 6000 x 4000.  I processed these pictures so they came out at 1620 x 1080.  This leaves a space on the sides which I fill in with a gray border that I put below the picture on the timeline.

From this other camera, I cut the pictures down and they came out as 1440 by 1080.  No problem, I just put in a gray background like before.  That will take care of the sides.   Wrong.   I tried both DSLR and AVCHD sequences 1920 x 1080.  Both have a picture aspect ratio of 1.000.  In both timelines the picture filled the full width of the screen.  It is as if the picture has a variable picture aspect ratio. 

How can that be?   Is there a way to fix the picture aspect ratio in Photoshop or Premier Pro so that the picture stays at 1440 wide?

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Community Expert ,
Jan 05, 2018 Jan 05, 2018

Stills never have a par of 1.33. Its always 1.0

Stills should be processed to 1920x1080 with a par 1.0

Despite of the timeline being 1440x1080 par 1,33.

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