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PP-2018 - CUDA not being used with GTX 750 Ti - Options?

Community Beginner ,
Jul 09, 2019 Jul 09, 2019

This is my current system:
Premiere Pro 2018 (Version 12.1.2, Build 69) - I have avoided upgrading to PP2019 as I have read that 4GB CUDA memory is required.

NVIDIA Driver: 430.86

Graphic Card: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 640 CUDA Cores, 2048 MB GDDR5 Memory

Source video material: 4k Video from a Panasonic FZ300 camera and 5.7K 360° video from a insta360 One X camera.

Computer: ASUS Prime X470 Pro with an AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Eight-Core CPU, 32GB DDR4 RAM

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit (up to date)

Use SanDisk SSD drives to speed up video rendering.

When I run Adobe Premiere Pro, the renderer is given as "Mercury Playback Engine GPU Acceleration (CUDA)" and the same is true in Media Encoder 2018 (not in Media Encoder 2019).

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/system-requirements.html

The specifications for Premiere Pro 2018 for using CUDA is 2GB GPU memory which are available, yet the CUDA is not being used. In previous versions (CS5) of Premiere Pro, it was being used when I added the name of my card to that text file.

When I try to render a video, I only get software encoding, no CUDA.

I realize that the Graphic Card is the weakest link, but it does provide the 2GB CUDA required by PP2018, yet does not use it.

What am I doing wrong?

Would it be sufficient to upgrade to an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB GDDR5 in order for CUDA to be used?

I know that the smallest recommended card is the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970, but I have read there are performance issues with that card. I am on a tight budget and need to get CUDA working again. Or what other low-budget graphic card will work to help speed up the rendering process for me?

I am often rendering 4K video and even 5.7K 360° VR video, so I realize that I need to upgrade my graphics card and 6GB CUDU memory would be better for that. So perhaps a GTX-1060 6GB or even a GTX-1070 Ti 8GB?

What should I do?

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Community Expert , Jul 09, 2019 Jul 09, 2019

You might be confusing two aspects of the export settings:

MPE (cuda) is run on the GPU of the graphics card,

Hardware encoding needs a intel cpu with Quick Sync enabled.

gpu vs intel.png

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LEGEND ,
Jul 09, 2019 Jul 09, 2019

Premiere does not use the GPU for basic rendering but for those things like color correction, Warp Stabilizer, resizing and scaling of media. As it gets to  those things working down the sequence, and needs/can use assistance from the GPU.

So if your clips don't have anything "on" them from that group the GPU will not be involved.

Neil

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 09, 2019 Jul 09, 2019

I tried a clean install of the NVidia driver and rebooted the system.

Under "Encoding settings," it tells me: "Hardware Encoding is unavailable. Please make sure this system meets hardware and minimum OS requirements for this functionality."

As far as I can tell, my system does meet the minimum settings. What can I do to fix this`

Would this work with a GTX-1060 6GB or even a GTX-1070 Ti 8GB?

I have been using Premiere Pro for years and CUDA was working in the past with lesser hardware. I understand the limitations of CUDA, yet it does speed up the rendering. Other video software I have works fine with the CUDA on my graphic card.

GPUSniffer reports the following:

--- OpenGL Info ---

Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation

Renderer: GeForce GTX 750 Ti/PCIe/SSE2

OpenGL Version: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 430.86 3.0.1226.0

GLSL Version: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler

Monitors: 2

Monitor 0 properties -

   Size: (0, 0, 1920, 1080)

   Max texture size: 16384

   Supports non-power of two: 1

   Shaders 444: 1

   Shaders 422: 1

   Shaders 420: 1

Monitor 1 properties -

   Size: (1920, -387, 1080, 1920)

   Max texture size: 16384

   Supports non-power of two: 1

   Shaders 444: 1

   Shaders 422: 1

   Shaders 420: 1

--- GPU Computation Info ---

Found 1 devices supporting GPU computation.

CUDA Device 0 -

   Name: GeForce GTX 750 Ti

   Vendor: NVIDIA

   Capability: 5

   Driver: 10.2

   Total Video Memory: 2048MB

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Community Expert ,
Jul 09, 2019 Jul 09, 2019

You might be confusing two aspects of the export settings:

MPE (cuda) is run on the GPU of the graphics card,

Hardware encoding needs a intel cpu with Quick Sync enabled.

gpu vs intel.png

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 12, 2019 Jul 12, 2019

Thanks for this explanation, I have looked at tons of posts about this and yours is the first that tells me that there are two separate systems in play here.

So if I understand you correctly, it would be best to have a combination of a CUDA graphic card and an Intel QuickSync CPU to obtain maximum hardware acceleration.

As I have read many reports about Intel CPUs having built-in spyware issues, I make a point of not using Intel CPUs and went for an AMD that is supposed to be just as fast. It would be great if Adobe would make full use of the AMD chipset as well.

I will now look into upgrading my graphic card to have at least 6GB and I will pass on QuickSync.

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Community Expert ,
Jul 12, 2019 Jul 12, 2019

As I have read many reports about Intel CPUs having built-in spyware issues

Anything is possible but this sounds a bit far-fetched.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 18, 2019 Jul 18, 2019

Do  your own research. Hackers have been warning about this for many years.

Intel CPUs have an ARC processor embedded within the processor running MINIX OS.

The real problems with the feature Intel ME (or Management Engine) are.

- It runs even when the computer is hibernating;

- It doesn't matter if you're using Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, Whonix, Tails, Qubes OS, or Subgraph;

- If you have an i3, i5, or i7 then, you're completely owned by the intelligence;

- It has full access to memory (without the parent CPU having any knowledge);

- It has full access to the TCP/IP stack;

- It can send and receive network packets, even if the OS is protected by a firewall;

- It is signed with an RSA 2048 key that cannot be brute-forced; and

- It cannot be disabled on newer Intel Core2 CPUs.

Hackers have a leaked toolkit and can access any Intel CPU powered PC even when it is switched off.

You can believe this or not, but you should at least look up where Intel CPUs are manufactured...

That is why I avoid computers with Intel CPUs.

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LEGEND ,
Jul 18, 2019 Jul 18, 2019

You can believe this or not

I have to go with not.

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LEGEND ,
Jul 18, 2019 Jul 18, 2019

Among other issues with those claims, this is just plain impossible ...

Hackers have a leaked toolkit and can access any Intel CPU powered PC even when it is switched off.

Which rather calls into question other data along that line.

Neil

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 19, 2019 Jul 19, 2019
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Look, I am just stating why "I" am avoiding Intel processors. I provided enough keywords for you guys to do your own research.
It is not my problem if you believe this or not. I will end this with a few links on the topic. I do not have and do not want to know about any tools used by hackers, but I have read articles from whistle-blowers that state they exist. As I have the option to buy a different CPU, that is what I have done. What you do is your decision and responsibility.

This is my last comment on the topic. I am here to talk about using Premiere Pro, not such issues.

https://itsfoss.com/fact-intel-minix-case/

Critical Flaws in Intel Processors Leave Millions of PCs Vulnerable

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/11/07/1041236/minix-intels-hidden-in-chip-operating-system

https://www.blackhat.com/eu-17/briefings/schedule/#how-to-hack-a-turned-off-computer-or-running-unsi...

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LEGEND ,
Jul 09, 2019 Jul 09, 2019

Ann is correct. There are two confusing uses of the terms software and hardware encoding.

GPU use is set in the Project settings dialog, period. And yes "software only" is an option there referring to disabling the GPU if there is one.

In the Export dialog, software/hardware encoding ONLY refers to the presence of the Intel QuickSync feature in your CPU. And if so, if it is enabled in the BIOS.

And this terminology only appears in the Export dialog if H.264 is selected as the Format.

Neil

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LEGEND ,
Jul 09, 2019 Jul 09, 2019
yet the CUDA is not being used.

If it's turned on, then it's being used where it can.

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