Subclip Broken Previews (Project Panel and Source Monitor)

[Eyu4]

I can't seem to find a way around this. I tried everything.

I have multiple subclips for the same master (source) footage.

Everything seems fine, I get proper previews (thumbnails) for the right In/Out points for each clip, both in the Project Panel and Source Monitor.

The problem starts when I move the original master footage of the subclips to a different folder (or even rename it), then I'll relink media (or replace footage) and all the subclips' previews will get broken, the In/Out points of the subclips will be at the beginning and then black video for the rest of the master clip.

The duration of each subclip also gets changed to the master footage total duration, instead of the subclip's duration (as it was before relinking media).

Can anyone replicate this issue or know how to solve this?

[Eyu4]

THIS IS BEFORE:

THIS IS AFTER:

same in Source Monitor, the whole master clip will show (black), instead of just the subclip's portion.

help 😞

[Eyu4]

And here's another explanation of the problem from another person, 2 years ago....

https://www.reddit.com/r/premiere/comments/iiase7/relink_subclips_without_changing_in_and_out_points...

[R Neil Haugen]

A bit of understanding of how projects and sequences are 'created' in the app is necessary to understanding how and why things work the way they do.

Projects are actually simply a form of a database file, that's all. Included in that are references to assets like files on disc, and of course, additional databases for each sequence.

You are breaking that organizational pattern. Therefore, you're getting the behavior you're getting.

If you were working in a Productions mode, then you could do more organization stuff like this without breaking the project "memory". I'm a one-man shop, but use Productions precisely for that reason.

I have folders for types of work, folders within those for clients/jobs/personal projects, and folders with projects holding b-roll, audio libraries, template sequences and such. And I can grab anything from another projet and use it in a current one without either duplicates or 'losing' links.

Neil

Premiere Pro Productions Introduction

Using Productions in Premiere Pro

Productions Workflow for Long Form & Episodic PDF

[Eyu4]

Awesome!! I had no clue about this feature and I took the time to read all of the references you linked. Now I already started sketching my own production(s) design. You saved my day (and probably more future inefficient days), Neil ! so I really thank you for replying so quickly.

BTW i still think the behavior I mentioned is faulty and that Adobe should fix it. Previews of subclips shouldn't get broken if I relink the footage, that's just purely destructive and makes no sense for any kind of user. As well as the faulty Project Manager behavior of duplicating subclips' original master footage over and over for every single subclip, when Collecting Files. It's just wrong and inefficient (this what caused me needing to replace the footage in the first place).

For others who also experience the pains I've experienced today and 'Productions' newbies like me, check out Neil's comment and references, as well as these videos I found really helpful:

Productions in Adobe Premiere Pro = efficiency on fleek

Productions: Available Today in Premiere Pro | Adobe Creative Cloud 

[R Neil Haugen]

The way that files are references within Premiere's standard project files ... I'm not sure how the relinking could work without duplicating the full data of the original file setup.

For the Project manager ... that has so many ifs/ands/buts/gotchas! that I don't actually use it much. Yea ... it's got some pain points. Especially in that many features only work like you expect with intraframe codecs, ProRes, Cineform, and DNx. But don't work as expected for 'triming' with long-GOP interframe codecs in H.264/5.

Neil

[Eyu4]

I somehow managed now to replace footage for some subclips and the in/out points and previews didn't break. I'm not sure what to think about this anymore, maybe I was messsing with faulty subsclips before, I really can't tell.

[Eyu4]

here's a screenshot of both. Top 4 subclips didn't break after replacing footage / relinking media, all bottom subclips did, as you can see their Media Duration and Subclip End changed for some reason. ALL subclips here use the same original master footage. This got me confused really.