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Unable to Export video with HDR10 (High10 profile) and Hardware Encoding

Community Beginner ,
Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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My Setup:

  • Adobe Premiere Pro v22.0 (Build 169)
  • Windows 11 Pro | Version: 21H2 | OS Build: 22000.282
  • AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core Processor
  • 64 GB RAM
  • NVIDIA 3090 RTX


The Problem:

I can't export a video file with Hardware Encoding on HDR10 (High10 profile) mode.

 

 

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LEGEND ,
Oct 25, 2021 Oct 25, 2021

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Could be because you're using Win11, which is not fully supported yet. Or something about your specific gear. Or the vagaries of the coding for that specific export setup.

 

Neil

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 26, 2021 Oct 26, 2021

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No it's not because Windows 11, it's happens also on Windows 10.

My gear, really? I have NVIDIA 3090 the best card in the market! so no it's not my gear issue.

 

Let's wait for the Adobe Experts to give me the solution for this problem...

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LEGEND ,
Oct 26, 2021 Oct 26, 2021

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Hardware encoding might be unavailable for that level of export process. Maybe @RjL190365 might pop in. That user has a ton of knowledge.

 

Neil

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 02, 2021 Nov 02, 2021

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Anyone can help me? @RjL190365

I can't believe there is no support for my high-end hardware.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 02, 2021 Nov 02, 2021

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High-end hardware doesn't matter if the function isn't supported period, or on something on the computer. Which in this case, I don't know. There are some encoding functions that are not 'hardware supported' on any hardware anywhere on the planet. In any application.

 

I don't know if this is one of those or not.

 

Neil

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 10, 2021 Nov 10, 2021

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No problem, so who can tell me what I need to do in order to get HDR10 recndring on Hardware mode?

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LEGEND ,
Nov 10, 2021 Nov 10, 2021

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@carolinesears1 might be able to check and see if this is possible ...

 

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 28, 2022 Feb 28, 2022

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Stunning! There is no solution for me to the problem (5 years payment user!) - What a bad service Adobe

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Mentor ,
Feb 28, 2022 Feb 28, 2022

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 01, 2022 Mar 01, 2022

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No, it's doesn't help.

 

The problem needed solved by the Adobe developers, very sad that there is no one to talk or understand it.

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Explorer ,
Feb 15, 2023 Feb 15, 2023

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Dude chill, you sound like the people commenting are attacking you. Who cares if you have high end hardware, I have a 3090ti as well. Does not make me special or better than anyone. Be grateful people here are actually trying to help you instead of being so nasty back to them.

 

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LEGEND ,
Mar 01, 2022 Mar 01, 2022

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If you're exporting to H.264 (AVC), then you cannot have hardware acceleration for 10-bit exports at all. Not even in DaVinci Resolve. Only 8-bit is supported. You must use HEVC for any 10-bit exports.

 

However, since the hardware encoder implementation used in Adobe products currently support only SDR, you cannot have HDR hardware acceleration. And then, if you try to export HDR10 as 8-bit SDR, then you will run into issues, requiring manual fixes.

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Contributor ,
Jun 12, 2023 Jun 12, 2023

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Does any video editing software allow HDR hardware acceleration?

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Contributor ,
Jun 14, 2023 Jun 14, 2023

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bump!

Please help.  This shouldn't be such a big thing or is it?

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LEGEND ,
Jun 14, 2023 Jun 14, 2023

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None that I know of.

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Jun 14, 2023 Jun 14, 2023

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I appreciate the feedback.  Much gratitude.

I am so curious as to why this wouldn't be a priority for everyone wanting to leave rec 709.  I mean it is possible?  Isn't it?  Doesn't the move to 4k bring the color space or is it just the resolution?  I understand the editing benefits but thought I had waited long enough to make the switch to 4k a bit more seamless.

I am still very impressed with what Adobe has given me.  Thank you.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 14, 2023 Jun 14, 2023

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4k is simply pixel dimensions to the image. Not any connection to color or tonality whatever.

 

Rec.709 is of course sRGB primaries, D65 white point, gamma 2.4 and 100 nits brightness in a semi darkened room. At whatever pixel dimensions.

 

High dynamic range... HDR ... is simply tonality, a wider dynamic range of brightness. Again, at whatever pixel dimensions were used.

 

And is nearly always using a wider and deeper color space and color gamut than SDR/Rec.709.

 

The two most common HDR color spaces are HLG, hybrid log gamma, and PQ, perceptual quantization. They typically use some subset of Rec.2020, often Rec.2100, for the specific color space and gamut.

 

But you need to know which was used.

 

Yea, it's more complicated now.

 

Neil

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Jun 14, 2023 Jun 14, 2023

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My point is I need to render with HDR Hardware Acceleration! 

 

Maybe that was lost in the complication?

 

The first video editing software that offers HDR Hardware Acceleration I will run to. 

 

I like the look much better than rec709 and that is what the 4k HEVC allows for and that's why it should be hardware accelerated.  Could it be any more simple.    It feels like arbitrary manipulation to have it left out and discovered by me and a few others.  🙂

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LEGEND ,
Jun 14, 2023 Jun 14, 2023

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Hardware acceleration is just that ... you might have missed that. Hardware acceleration. As in, dependent on the hardware doing it.

 

Apparently, at this time, no hardware does. And then that wouldn't be anything any software company could provide.

 

@RjL190365  is our local expert on such things though.

 

Neil

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LEGEND ,
Jun 15, 2023 Jun 15, 2023

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Actually, I would like to make it more clear. The setting of High10 implies an H.264 export - and absolutely nobody (hardware-maker-wise at the GPU chip level on the Windows side, as opposed to camera-processor-level) supports hardware encoding or decoding for that profile at all. Every single GPU maker's hardware H.264 encoding support is restricted to 8-bit SDR. And video editing software cannot circumvent this restriction imposed by all of the GPU makers.

 

HEVC hardware encoding is a completely different story.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 15, 2023 Jun 15, 2023

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Thanks for posting, as always!

 

Neil

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Apr 13, 2024 Apr 13, 2024

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May I ask why in the latest version (pr2024) hardware encoding is not supported if hdr10 metadata is on? Now it can hardware encode hlg rec2020 with high10 hevc, but if I toggle hdr10 metadata to support hdr10, it says hardware encode is not supported. This is a hardware unsupport or a software unsupport?

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LEGEND ,
Apr 13, 2024 Apr 13, 2024

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It's not Adobe that made that decision. It's all of the GPU makers which dictated that. They are restricted to 8-bit SDR 4:2:0 for hardware encoding support for H.264. Adobe merely went by whatever Nvidia, AMD and Intel told it to do.

 

You must use HEVC (H.265) in order to have hardware encoding for 10-bit or HDR exports.

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Jun 26, 2023 Jun 26, 2023

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 A lot of peeps think they have it all together.  Reflect and learn. Life is very short.  Here is an article to help the young at mind deliver HDR in all its warring conflicts.  We want color not resolution!

 

https://www.engadget.com/creating-hdr-videos-for-youtube-is-hell-140028098.html

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