Vertical content issue. Transform effect not affecting source monitor.

[jarradk72322040]

The appropriate way to manage vertical-shot footage has been to apply the Transform affect to the source clip.  Just last week it worked fine.  Now the footage rotates, but the source monitor orientation does not.  Many are having this issue. 

You can see the issue from the screenshot.  The clip is selected, Transform is applied correctly, footage has been rotated, but the monitor has not.  It is still in 16:9. 

This is a huge deal and causes a ton of extra work manage the workflow.  It must be a bug as it worked for me in the past, and is working for many people out there now.  Honestly, with the proliferation of vertical content, this should be easier anyways. 

[Stan Jones · Accepted solution]

Your sequence settings need to be vertical also.

Stan

[jarradk72322040]

There is no sequence. The clip is in the source monitor, not placed in a sequence. Are you saying a non-imported clip's viewing is driven by a default setting in a sequence?

[Stan Jones · Accepted solution]

Oops. I misinterpreted.

But yes, my understanding from the various threads on this topic is that it does not preview correctly in the source monitor. It will look right in a vertical sequence. This is true for vertical videos that have the "rotation" metadata flag set to anything other than zero. The value of using an Effect on the source clip is that you don't have to make changes in the timeline everytime you use it. But it does not fix the preview/source monitor appearance.

My post here explains how to change the clip before import:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/fix-clips-rotated-90-degrees/m-p/13984096#M4...

In that thread, the correct orientation was landscape (horizontal). The camera was not held correctly at the beginning and the whole clip was treated (by the camera/phone) as portrait (vertical). Your situation is that the shot was correctly vertical but PR is treating it as horizontal.

What you see in MediaInfo is that two types of clips work correctly in PR Source Monitor: a) one with the pixel dimensions correct (vertical, e.g. 1080 x 1920) and zero rotation and b) one with the pixel dimensions wrong (horizontal, e.g. 1920 x 1080) and rotation 90.

The problem clips have the vertical pixel size but rotation or they are horizontal with no rotation set.

What some users want is for PR to have an option to interpret this differently. I do not see a feature request for this - you have submitted this as a bug. The other threads are discussions. I'd consider a request for "Provide an Interpret Footage Option to correct Vertical Video Orientation." My problem example was solved by using a zero rotation and not what was in the file. But other examples might require changing the pixel dimension for horizontal to vertical. PR allows applying interpret footage to multiple clips, so it would be a quick adjustment.

Stan

[jarradk72322040 · Accepted solution]

Fantastic info Stan, much appreciated.  I found a video that helped me understand how to fix my issue in camera.  For those of you out there with Canon R6/R5, check this out:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZdaHCvFf0U.  There is a seperate rotation function specifically for video.  I just tried it and works perfect. 

Thanks again!

[Stan Jones]

Thanks for reporting back!

Stan

[Ann Bens · Accepted solution]

Many users forget to check if the camera software is actually in vertical mode.

Most likely you filmed in vertical position and held the phone vertical, but the phone itself was still in horizontal mode.

[jarradk72322040]

May be true for some camera/phones, but a R6 doesn't have different modes.  Premiere was working fine, I shoot vertical all the time and have used this before.  The source monitor is supposed to match the image settings so when the image is rotated the canvas should as well.  Always worked fine until yesterday. 

[jarradk72322040]

Thanks Ann!  I was wrong.  The R6/R5 has a new option that seperates the handling for video.  I enabled it and works perfect. 

Other users experincing this, check this video out:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZdaHCvFf0U