Where is 'saturation' in Lumetri Color Wheels?

[Eko Wardoyo]

Dear community, when i use colorista color wheels, there is an option to saturate the color. See image below :

Look, there are HSL (Hue Saturation Lightnes) in Colorista Color Wheel. I want to change the saturation of shadow color in lumetri. But i can not find the saturation. Please see image below :

Thanks.

[Ann Bens]

Each program has its own UI setup.

You will find several saturation option under Curves.

[Eko Wardoyo]

Thanks Ann, if i change setting of hue vs saturation on curve, all color of footage will be affected.

what i want is :

I change the shadow color to teal or another color, and i want to change its saturation. Only this color of shadow, not all footage color.

Until now i can not find it.

[Ann Bens]

Did you select a color with the eyedropper?

[Eko Wardoyo]

For now, i'm still experimenting it @Ann Bens 

[Eko Wardoyo]

Hi @Ann Bens , hue vs saturation just change the saturation of footage, and shadow color still remaining same

[Richard M Knight]

Perhaps you need the Luma v Sat curve.

[Andy 1968]

I agree the 3 way color corrector should have independent saturation levels. Even FCPX's 3 way color corrector has it. To me the Lumetri Color Panel looks like Fisher Price compared to FCPX. The Lumetri Color Panel just stacked a bunch of color correction filters together and the user cannot change the order. 

[Eko Wardoyo]

I agree with you @Andy 1968 

[Andy 1968]

Eko,

With the old color correction filters I could stack them as needed. Adobe is supposed to be working on some state of the art color correction filters as we speak. 

[R Neil Haugen]

You can use the Curves section to set saturation for varous hues in some respects.

You can use the HSL section to select a hue within a range of values, and change where it goes.

But there's no one control that allows you to do both on multiple hues.

As to that existing in Colorista ... understand, this is WHY Premiere is designed to be so open for makers to create plugins and extensions for use within Premiere. They built it as essentially a 'container' for us users to add effects from where-ever.

So when I've pushed the engineers on getting more native controls in Lumetri, there's been some commentary to the effect that 1) some changes and additions will of course come to Lumetri over time, they're happy to hear what various users want, and  yet ... 2) there are certain things that "partners" do (and make a living at) that they are very careful about stepping into.

Personally, I just want everything we had in SpeedGrade ... the 9-way wheels controls with pivot and contrast for each set so we can get far more granular, specific changes to things among them.

I've also asked for the ability drag/drop to reorder the 'stack' of effects in Lumetri, and to have multiple layers of any effect, and to have pick-whips (like in Ae) for both the 'input' and 'output' of all Lumetri tabs.

I think that's a fairly simple list, though the engineers do not seem to agree ... huh.

Neil

[Eko Wardoyo]

Thanks @R Neil Haugen 

[chrisw44157881]

just to add, you can use <effect> track matte set to luma matte with curves to create some pretty sophisticated luma defined controls like hue per luma, for example without needing to make HSL masks. I used this trick to make chroma procedurals as a film template in 'color' transfer modes that would normally be impossible with traditional tools.

[R Neil Haugen]

Would love to hear this in more detail, Chris.

Neil

[chrisw44157881]

i just read they posted a tutorial on mixinglight about it. maybe they read my chats?

[Eko Wardoyo]

hi @chrisw44157881 , do you have link of tutorial?

[chrisw44157881]

no, someone said it was a recent one. i only heard it in passing.