Ability for Disable Program Monitor Zoom Settings

[jessenicoli]

Please add the following settings
1. Ability to disable zoom on the program window or change mouse scroll wheel behavior. While scrubbing on the timeline with the mouse wheel it's prone to accidentally moving the cursor over the video and unintentionally zooming causing a frustrating experience.

2. Setting to disable the nodes on audio transitions in the sequence timeline. They make it more difficult to make edits in the timeline.

Mod note: The title was changed slightly

[R Neil Haugen]

This forum is one of several ways Adobe gathers metrics. Most users don't understand the size and scope of full "Adobe" ... we CC users are only one part of that massive company's efforts.

The other two (that I know of) are of course the massive Acrobat/PDF/signed-documents section, which is huge, and the um ... section that does user engagement and metric qualifications computation stuff for other mega corporations.

So Adobe is one of the actual leaders worldwide among those designing corporate user-engagement studies, practices, and modifications. It's a fascinating company in all.

And for the CC users, they routinely do a wide variety of things to sort out what data they get back via their CC app which apparently can give some feedback to them of the various app tools used (but no user data ever) ... surveying individual users and their many corporate enterprise accounts ... and gathering information from various social media forums/groups/whatnot.

Personally, I've been through in-person interviews at NAB of over an hour, both individually and as part of a small group. I've been asked to do zoom type online surveys with a moderator and a team member of one or more apps asking tons of questions. And I know others who've been through this also.

Plus of course, they keep close contact with the many people that teach working in the CC apps around the world. As someone who also does that, I've had the folks that monitor that contact me. I know a number of other noted "teachers", and they all have had many questions asked of them.

Past that, remember ... any of us users is one user. That's all. There are several million daily users of Premiere Pr alone, and I'm quite serious that everyone that edits does things differently than everyone else. Which is to me the most fascinating part of attending NAB and other such events every year. 

The one absolute guarantee is that any suggestion one user can make, several others will not want at freaking all. We are that different. So it's always a choice between competing thoughts and feelings and workflows.

Personally, I really REALLY REALLY wish we could lock the program monitor to scrolling the timeline only. But I know people who think the ability to zoom the size of the image in the program monitor the most useful modification to the app in ages. Yeah ... we disagree, but then ... I can't say they're wrong, just that the same behavior they love annoys the Hades out of me.

And we laugh at each other's ... foibles.

[LaLaLand3000]

Thanks for the informational round-up.

What I gather from this, is that Adobe shouldn't simply change and restrict established workflows but instead offer their users a setting to go back to the old behavior, especially if it's a simple checkbox.

This isn't the first time that Adobe software takes one step forward and two steps back. Other companies apparently have better systems in place to not annoy their user base on a regular basis. Respectfully

[R Neil Haugen]

I'm always a fan of user options, especially when changing something that would affect the users in many different ways.

I use Resolve and other apps on a daily basis, have for years. Every major colorist has a list of bugs and bad behavior choices that haven't been addressed for years. Why?

Because there are so many different things the makers of these complex and complicated apps are having to work on, that none of them fix everything.

The closest would be Baselight ... but for that app, you buy the computer from them, typcially three choices from $13,500 to $19,500 ... you never ever EVER add any other app whatsoever to that computer ... and you pay a yearly license of something like $1,500.

You get rock-solid performance, though ...

[LaLaLand3000]

Since you brought up Resolve:

I've been using Resolve for years as well and – while there is always room for improvement in any app – Resolve has a MUCH better handle on performance, preferences, stability et al.  All the while being a more complex piece of software.  The percentage of disgruntled users between these apps doesn't even remotely compare.  

All that being said – every app has bugs, but we are not even talking about bugs here.

To bring it back to the tpoic at hand: we are talking about an editing software that has removed the ability to scrub through the timeline via mouse wheel hassle free.

[R Neil Haugen]

I agree that the timeline scrubbing is a ton more picky now, and I don't like it.

That said, you also have to understand that BlackMagic makes a different basis ... they do not make Resolve as a product, but as a loss-leader for selling hardware. They don't make enough on the few actual sales of 'Studio' a year to probably cover the cost of the sales.

And ... I've got enough BM kit that I've got extra licenses in a drawer. Love my BM cameras.

But ... Resolve is a very closed-loop app. They do NOT allow other hardware makers to have access to their API, that is only for BM made devices. Whether the color, editing, or audio panels ... and they grudgingly gave Tangent the ability to have the Elements and Wave panels work within Resolve in a very, very limited fashion, totally controlled by the Resolve devs.

Such as ... my Elements panel, which in Adobe apps is a jack of all trades tool, not just color but audio mixing, sizing/rotating/repositioning any screen element, you name it.

But in Resolve? By design of BM ... that marvelous panel is limited to a few functions for colorist work, in a bizarre 'menu' system that makes no sense (you simply have to work with it for months to get the thing in physical memory), half or more of the panel's tools are simply not set to do anything at any one time no matter where you are in the bizarre system BM set up ... and it hasn't had any updates in tools it works with since around R15.

The Tangent people had been trying to get any updates from BM for years, finally gave up and created their "Warp Engine" options last year. Which allow the user to make screen-based uses of tools that have scrolling numerical controls ... which are rare but do exist on the color page.

So now I've mapped that Elements panel to work with the HDR panel and the Color Slice panel, and that does an amazing job. Pretty spiffy, though of course, as basically it's 'mouse emulation', like with mouse work, you can only do one tool at a time.

I'm used to working two or three tools at a time on that panel. But ok, at least the use in Resolve makes R more interesting to work in for color.

But as nothing really on the Edit, Cut, or Fairlight pages can be Warped, and none of their controls are mapped to the Tangent panel, I can't do any panel work in any other page but color.

To use a panel on the other pages, I would have to buy mulitple panels ... because Heaven forbid one panel works in Resolve on more than one page! ... so a separate panel for Edit, another for Cut, another for Fairlight (audio) ... and past the blame expense, where on my standing desk would I put all of them?

Have you checked the price on the Fairlight panels alone?

No, while I love my BM cameras ... in general, Adobe makes something I can setup for working in much faster than Resolve.

But of course, a good friend thinks Resolve is the most intuitive app ever designed by humankind. Shouldn't ever even need the massive manual.

While ... after years of use, I still struggle to remember where all the stupid context menus are hidden on various pages. "Intuitive" my donkey.

As I do heavily comment though, we are all different. Every flipping one of us. Noboby ever works like 'we' do. Ever.

[LaLaLand3000]

Thanks for the elborate response. I will read it when I have more time on my hands. This topic isn't about Resolve or Blackmagic. Plain and simple, users don't care what internal struggles lead to things not working like they should. If Adobe needs extra capital to add a checkbox to their preferences, they should launch a Kickstarter.

I honestly don't understand what you're trying to achieve here. We have established that there is a very simple solution to this issue. The only apparent reason why this has not been resolved to everyones benefit, is because it is simply not a priority to the devs.

Therefore, users will keep raising this issue and vent their frustration until they can use this essential feature like they used to. Continously deflecting, invalidating the issue or highlighting the shortcomings of the competition adds little to no value and detracts from the topic at hand. Respectfully.

[R Neil Haugen]

And respectfully, I see no difference really between different firms. Both have things that some users feel are ignoring those user's needs. It's Life. Sucks at times, yup.

And as an active participant in both ponds, there are issues for both firms. Is it maddening? Sure, especially if you're someone who's got stuck with an issue.

And as noted, I agree this  behavior in Premiere should be changed. I have posted about this myself, and have upvoted every Idea post requesting it be changed. Period.

That said, I make no excuses, for any of the company's making the hardware and software we all use, as explanations are not excuses. I do explain things at times. It does not mean I agree with, sympathize with, or excuse anyone. I do separate my feelings from those that others would have. As we are all different. 

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hello, albiong22718917

I am advicating for this. Again, I am not on the team. I can only voice concern about the issue. The decision is in the hands of the product management. Sorry for the frustration. 

Thanks,
Kevin