/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/mov-to-mp4-color-is-mismatching/td-p/11011342Mar 29, 2020
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Hi all!
I have this issue it sometimes worked now it doesnt.
I have a .mov file that i can share with you if you have a solution, the problem is next:
I use after effects for an animation and i export it as a .mov and the colors are accurate with a color palete of 0687AE , but when i insert it into premiere pro and export as mp4 i get the color 0787AE, and the thumbnail icon on the desktop is very different, when i import the mp4 in the premiere pro for comparisson it is almost the same but not identical.
I need to get the mp4 file exactly the same as the mov and i fail to do that, i am not asking about the graphic preview settings that is adjusted, the issue i have is the rendering options and why does it look different... sometimes i had this problem and managed to fix it now i can't even online converter from mov to mp4 will fail and give some 3rd type of preview.
To know more what i am talking about here is as screen shot, the right one is accurate the left one fails. https://ibb.co/1qJF7zV
I believe VLC matches premiere for gamma 2.2. quicktime uses 1.96 gamma so I wouln't use that for reference. Does it look the same when putting it back into AE?
It looks the same yes, but the color palette is wrong again it's not the same color, and when my client is uploading the video on a website that has the original background the clip mismatches, now i managed to solve it with GIF export, gif export and mov export does it well but when it comes to MP4 it changes everything... And client insists the file to be mp4 so my question is, howcome an mp4 format can't give the same color as .mov or .gif? IT's not the color setings nothing of that is not the case as i managed to do it with mov and with gif, why shouldn't i do it with h264 export of mp4...
its possible the github naclc quicktime atom editor can solve this issue as the color information is stored as BT.601, 709 gamma as metadata inside the file itself.
Try using handbrake from an intermediate for the encoding as I believe it uses 1,1,1,1 naclc encoding.
Tried that too, it's not working with handbrake, i can upload the file here on wetransfer and you to try if you are willing but i fail to produce the exactly same video from mov to mp4 without changing the color, tried with after effects, tried with encoder, premiere pro, handbrake, online converters.. nothing works
also, I've seen issues where having duplicate four-cc encoder/decoders can mis-interpret the video in both directions.
A long time ago I proved that Adobe had a h.264 color bug. I don't know if they ever fixed that. It only affected certain resolutions below HD. Perhaps try making a 640x480 and a 1920x1080 and see if the color bug is still there. I think the 640x480 used BT.601 colors from the 1980's.
Gives different color, more similar but still different.
The main issue i face is that After effects give me the right color, Premiere pro on the other hand is showing me a different color palete. The color code is acurate in after effects yet different in premiere pro, i don't know what seems to be the case why's that...
But you got a point there, making it 640x480 gives more similar color but still that's not it, seems like that the 1;1 aspect ratio manages to mess up the colors... will try now with full HD
Nope... that's not working neither, can i upload the file to you here to see if you can manage to export it like to see what is going on when you check the color palete it gives different background color, and when you check the thumbnail the mp4 is more greensih.
Here is the file - https://we.tl/t-ut3AheWcAJ The teal color file wont work with mp4, the white color file on the other hand will keep the colors good...
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In Ae, set the working space to Rec.709-gamma 2.4. That is what Premiere is hardwired to work in. In both Premiere and Ae, make sure the linear space option is not set ... it's in that window for Ae, in Premiere, it's in the Sequence Settings, "Composite in Linear Color".
Typically, those both need to be off to match Ae and Pr. But test ... there are situations where you need to change those to make it work.
Hi Neil, I am geting closer but still it's a missmatch now the color palete is closer but still off. It makes her 0687AE in after effects. But when i put it in premiere pro it makes her 0587AE. I don't know why it is doing that...
I think the problem is in the Premiere pro it somehow manages to change colors, even if i take a solid color of what i need and export it i don't get the same color match.
Look at this screenshot, both the after effects and premiere are giving different color on a exactly same clip , this is very strange i have no idea why is it doing it.
I was having the same issue and I managed to fixed it by using a free tool called Handbrake, its used to compress videos, without lossing much resolution. Just cause i was about to give up, i decided to try compressing the .mov into an .mp4 with handbrake. and just like that, the colors looked like the original, no more saturation, nothing. After that, i imported that new .mp4 into premiere and adjusted the colors a bit. Problem solved.
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