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Configure Numbered and Bulleted Styles in CSS

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May 18, 2010
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I have searched and read a lot of postings re:Numbered and Bulleted styles/lists in the CSS setup and still have no clue how this was changed in the most recent build of RoboHelp HTML or the correct way to apply and get to work.

In X5 of RoboHelp HTML, I had a CSS style sheet with 5 paragraph styles with bullets. I did not create a list - I simply bulleted the style. When I apply one of these styles to a paragraph it adds a bullet.

I upgraded to RoboHelp HTML X8.0.2.208 and my bulleted styles are a total mess. The styles are still in the CSS, but when applied there is no bullet - it adds a number (then I have to click the Bullet icon button on the toolbar to apply a bullet). I have tried to find release notes or some documentation explaining the change and can find none. I have reviewed Peter Grange's site information about lists and multilevel lists, but see no reason why I cannot just apply a bullet directly on a style without using the list or multilevel list.

I guess the issue may be my stupidity on the configuration and use of lists and multilevel lists. Is there any documentation from Adobe that outlines the change that occurred as of this most recent build? I am looking for an explanation of how a list corresponds to a style and how to get the style to work correctly. Ironically, the online help has been no help at all.

As always, thanks to any feedback or direction.

Michael F Weart

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It's not your stupidity! They have enhanced this feature to the point where it is unusable. The online help around this makes no sense, either.

What, for example, does this mean:

"Select Inherit Numbering Property From Multilevel List to inherit the multilevel list style to apply autonumbering. Select the multilevel list style from the List Class pop-up menu and select the level to apply autonumbering. Click Ok."

We just upgraded to 8 and are having to rework every single topic that has numbers, bullets or alpha lists. Thousands. And when I search the help and the community I see nary a release note mentioning that this was going to happen...

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No, it's true. The change from html to xhtml horsed everything up.

This email doesn't contain whatever grumbling post you are commenting on, but in case I didn't give due credit, Peter Grainge was a lot of help to me during my weeks of pain and anguish. His web site contains a lot of info about how to wrangle everything back into shape.

As a comment, I didn't even try to set up multi-level numbering. For all I know, it's a great feature & solves all problems, but I decided that if Adobe couldn't even manage to get ordinary numbers and lists to work right, there was no hope for anything complicated.

I am probably being a little unfair, because my project was the result of several different RoboHelp versions & it eventually built up goofy errors & inconsistencies that it would be difficult to expect any mere software to overcome, but the whole experience was so painful that I am just hoping I can retire before needing to upgrade any Adobe product ever again.

And don't get me started on Adobe documentation. I don't understand how they are still in business with what they produce. One of life's great ironies that they create products for technical writers but don't actually employ any who can competently describe the products they create.

Good luck.

John

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Vandal_Adonis

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I agree. I tried RH 8 for several weeks. I found that the new features that attracted me were actually implemented in a way that made them unusable for my situation. That, combined with the list train wreck and the general slugishness of the product convinced my to forgo an upgrade. I'm still running 7 and happy that I am.

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Michel, I am right in the middle of doing what you are trying to do.

In addition to looking over Peter Grainge's snippet, which lays out how the P styles and LI styles work, you will probably find that you need to edit the html directly, even after you get a set of styles created.

I am finding various problems, such as <ol> tags that weren't properly closed when I inserted a bullet into a numbered list, and various manually applied styles that I used to fudge things into line in previous versions of RoboHelp.

After you get your styles arranged so that a representative topic looks right, keep an eye out for paragraphs that look different in other topics, such as an indented bullet that suddenly looks indented too far. If you look at the para in html, you may notice an added manual style that applies an indent, or <ol> and <ul> tags that don't match up evenly with their closing tags.

The upside is that you are going to gain some serious skills in reading xhtml.

Best wishes.

John

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Wait-- didn't we pay Adobe for RoboHelp so that we would have an editor that allowed us NOT to have to edit HTML directly!!

Peter Grainge

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Michael

See my first reply in this thread.

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/636490?tstart=0

Are you saying that all your "lists" just have a paragraph style and no LI tag?

See www.grainge.org for RoboHelp and Authoring tips

@petergrainge

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