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ImaRetiredTeacher
ImaRetiredTeacher
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September 23, 2023
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Is there any point in processing this?

  • September 23, 2023
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Hello,

When I took these, I had not yet searched whether this mixer was copyrighted, which was a big mistake. Of course it is! When I crop most of it out (it's not the point of the shot), is it usable? It certainly changed the message I was trying to send and made this a closeup, which I don't think Adobe really gets excited about. =(

I don't wanna waste my time, obviously. 

Thanks for your expert opinions.

 

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Correct answer Nancy OShea

The trick to good food photography is camera placement and angle. Immersive camera placement, a few degrees above or below table level is more appealing to viewers than overhead shots.  Although overhead shots can be a good choice when you want to show the list of ingredients.

https://stock.adobe.com/search?k=making%20cake

 

Proper safeguards must be taken to protect IP.  For this reason, many food photographers & vloggers use generic hand tools on camera and reserve their Kitchenaid & Vitamix for off camera tasks.  Cheating. 🙂

 

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George_F
George_F
Community Expert
September 24, 2023

I was thinking the same thing as @Abambo, KitchenAid mixers are so iconic that I believe this has the possibility of running into IP issues.  I think this would be a photo that is on the fence, and could go either way.

 

There is a bit of the K in the KitchenAid logo showing on the metal band of the mixer as well, this should definitely be removed if you decide to submit it.  Or removed from any other similar photos you may decide to submit.

 

Although a few examples are black and white, IP in regards to stock photos has a lot of grey area in my experience.  I've found several instances of my model of car with the logos removed that is available for commercial licensing.  It is still very clearly that model of car though, and I can even narrow it down to within a few model years based on the wheels.

 

Cheers!

George F, Photographer & Forum Volunteer
    Nancy OShea
    Nancy OSheaCorrect answer
    Community Expert
    September 24, 2023

    The trick to good food photography is camera placement and angle. Immersive camera placement, a few degrees above or below table level is more appealing to viewers than overhead shots.  Although overhead shots can be a good choice when you want to show the list of ingredients.

    https://stock.adobe.com/search?k=making%20cake

     

    Proper safeguards must be taken to protect IP.  For this reason, many food photographers & vloggers use generic hand tools on camera and reserve their Kitchenaid & Vitamix for off camera tasks.  Cheating. 🙂

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
      ImaRetiredTeacher
      ImaRetiredTeacherAuthor
      Known Participant
      September 24, 2023

      Cheating's funny. But I wasn't trying to get "food", I was trying to get the woman, doing a household chore. Adobe seems to like people in the pics. I belive it may have been you (?) who told me there is a market for regular people doing regular things. Am I wrong about that?

      Thanks for your response.

      p.s. I should probably also mention that is my daughter getting ready for my granddaughter's birthday party. She was incredibly busy so I promised I would shoot without asking for any particular locations or changes of any kind. I was keeping my promise of trying to not get in the way, LOL. But, at the same time, I keep hearing that I should do something "different" so angle is something I can control. I'm more of a cenceptual photographer trying to change to meet Adobe's needs. I'm afraid I change slowly 😃

      Abambo
      Abambo
      Community Expert
      September 24, 2023

      You should talk your daughter into a modelling session. Shooting the “real world” never works well, and especially not for stock. Even for casual looking pictures, you should stage them. Even with “real” staff: https://geprolux.com/en/about/our-staff/

      ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
      Abambo
      Abambo
      Community Expert
      September 23, 2023

      The mixer is probably a Kitchen Aid and is iconic. So yes, such a mixer could generate an IP violation, even if the logo is edited out. All depends on the picture and how prominent the mixer is. I recognized it, but I do not think how prominent it will be for the moderators. I know, however, that some assets get refused because of iconic looks.

       

      However, especially because of the blur, as indicated by @Jill_C, this picture is difficult to get through.

      ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
        ImaRetiredTeacher
        ImaRetiredTeacherAuthor
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        September 23, 2023

        Hello and thank you for the help. As I said above, I didn't pay any attention to focus as I was ONLY concerned about IP. I have others and would of course scrutinize if I thought it was worth the time and effort...

          Abambo
          Abambo
          Community Expert
          September 23, 2023

          You have others and the mixer may be pictured differently. I had an iPhone that got refused because of the round button.

          ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
          Jill_C
          Jill_C
          Community Expert
          September 23, 2023

          I don't think that this image would earn an IP rejection because the details of the stand mixer are not visible. However, it will definitely earn a quality rejection because it has chroma noise and blur and is not well composed. It's too tightly cropped such that it's difficult to see who's doing what...

          Jill C., Forum Volunteer
          ImaRetiredTeacher
          ImaRetiredTeacherAuthor
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          September 23, 2023

          I did not waste my time processing it because I wanted only one question answered.  I'm wondering if you actually read my post all the way through... I found a case on the internet where they sued someone because their mixer has the same shape as theirs so the shape is also copyrighted, not just the name. That's why I cropped it so tight.

          Jill_C
          Jill_C
          Community Expert
          September 23, 2023

          I did read your entire post and answered your question. Go ahead and post it if you want to. It will be rejected.

          Jill C., Forum Volunteer
            daniellei4510
            daniellei4510
            Community Expert
            September 23, 2023

            Without seeing the uncropped version, it's difinately difficult to undersstand what is going on here. A medical procedure? A cooking recipe in a kitchen? You can always try, but I think you'd be at risk of having an effect on your refusal rate.

            Adobe Community Expert | If you can't fix it, hide it; if you can't hide it, delete it.
            ImaRetiredTeacher
            ImaRetiredTeacherAuthor
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            September 23, 2023

            My big question is about the copyrighter mixer...

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