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"Data Issue" - this is a new one to me. I can't figure out what to do with this now.

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Mar 16, 2023 Mar 16, 2023

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Hi Adobe community..

 

I've been contributing for roughly six months or so now.  Reasonably "good record" with submissions / acceptances (I think).  Recently though - I submitted four images on different topics (all science and tech related though) and all four came back with "Data Issue" - I've attached a screen grab below.  The description of this hold basically says essentially that the image is OK but there is an issue with keywording or title - and gives little else guidance.  Furthermore it gives me the opportunity to correct this and resubmit.

 

That's all nice but problem is I don't know what to correct, this looks fine to me and seems consistent with all the other hundred images or so I've submitted / Adobe accepted in this past six months.

 

Any guidance?  I've attached the image and the submissions response.

 

Thanks!

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Community Expert , Mar 16, 2023 Mar 16, 2023

I think you're right. Those keywords can cause the moderator to falsely assume that generative ai software was used.

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Community Expert , Mar 16, 2023 Mar 16, 2023

Customers are asking a lot for a possibility to exclude generative assets from their search results. Most are not happy with the poor results of those assets.

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Community Expert , Mar 16, 2023 Mar 16, 2023

Keep doing what you do.  It's fine.  It's way better than any Generative AI I've seen recently with 3 legged tables, 5 legged horses and 6 handed clocks, etc..  🤣

 

Generative AI is a great idea whose potential has not been fully utilized or perfected yet.  Customers like me want high quality images.  AI hasn't met that litmus test yet.

 

 

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Mar 16, 2023 Mar 16, 2023

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This appears to be a Generative AI image, however you haven't titled or tagged it as such.

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Mar 16, 2023 Mar 16, 2023

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If it is a generative AI picture, it's very clean. I also could guess this to be a 3D render with some Photoshop (globe mirror). However, the “ai” and “artificial intelligence” keywords may confuse. I would in the current context not use "ai" as a keyword.

 

If it is generative AI, check this: Generative AI submission guidelines - Adobe Support Community - 13549435 

 

 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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I think you're right. Those keywords can cause the moderator to falsely assume that generative ai software was used.

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Mar 16, 2023 Mar 16, 2023

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Thanks for the quick responses.  The image is not generative AI but it is CGI modeled the "old fashioned way." 

 

Pondering if I am going to somehow have to prove I'm human from now on.

 

Good thoughts on the AI keywords confusing it - but three other images (basically all the images I submitted that day) got the exact same treatment and the others have different keywords without any "AI" terms.  As an example - I've attached another from the group and the response.

 

I am wondering if the reviewer just assumed they were AI generated and I didn''t click "AI Generated" on the submission form (perhaps he/she was "AI weary" from a long day of staring at substandard weirdly proportioned AI images).

 

I've been submitting CGI images for some time now and this is the first time I've encounted this.

 

-Pete

 

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I think, moderators see now generative AI everywhere…

 

(just an unrelated question: how long did your assets sit in the review queue?)

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Eight days - which is longer than normal (I'm not complaining - and wait times are inconsistent anyway).  I've noticed a similar slowdown on "other sites" as well.  I think generative AI has arrived.  I'm predicting higher turnover for stock photo site reviewers!

 

-Pete

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By @DarkClearSky

Eight days is still OK. At least that shows that generative AI seems really to be in its queue, which is great news. I, as a contributor for illustrations, would really hate to be put on the same queue, than those people who spit out (bad) pictures non-stop.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Eight days is not bad - I've certainly had longer waits but it has typically been shorter (guessing around 5 days avg in the past..?).. It doesn't really matter a lot to me - happy to have images be curated and I've learned a lot in the process.

 

If this space is genuinely inundated with AI images then perhaps I should be rethinking this hobby...?

 

-Pete

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Customers are asking a lot for a possibility to exclude generative assets from their search results. Most are not happy with the poor results of those assets.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Keep doing what you do.  It's fine.  It's way better than any Generative AI I've seen recently with 3 legged tables, 5 legged horses and 6 handed clocks, etc..  🤣

 

Generative AI is a great idea whose potential has not been fully utilized or perfected yet.  Customers like me want high quality images.  AI hasn't met that litmus test yet.

 

 

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Keep doing what you do.  It's fine.  It's way better than any Generative AI I've seen recently with 3 legged tables, 5 legged horses and 6 handed clocks, etc..  🤣

 

Thanks for the encouraging words..!

 

I added "3D Render" to the titles as well as an a additional keyword and resubmitted.  Hopefully that does the trick.

 

I appeciate all the assistance!

 

-Pete

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You have added your submission data and the image, but not the response.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Oops - sorry about that.. (I thought I had - but it was the keyword screen)..  I've attached it here. 

 

I'm inclined to resubmit them "as is" and hope the reviewer is less AI weary this time around..?  Thoughts..?

 

-Pete

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Well, the keyword screen was quite interesting too, as it showed the AI-keyword. I would not use AI as a keyword, as users are given the advice to use “-ai” in the search, to avoid generative AI.

 

I would also add to the title 3D rendering. Just to emphasize that it is not a generative AI. I was doing 3D for some time in a prior life, and as I saw recently many generative AI assets, I think that I have an eye for the difference. AI simply has not the regular structure as your image. It's more “illustrative”. But on a thumbnail, that is not always clear.

 

But just let's call @MatHayward into this discussion, to see if he has something to add.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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That's an excellent suggestion (adding a "3d render" keyword)..  Some other stock sites require this on CGI - but for Adobe I've just been clicking "Illustration" for file type and assuming that was Adobe's way of making that differentiation.  Now that AI images have flooded the space - I guess things have changed.

 

TBH - I was surprised when Adobe starting allowing AI generated images.

 

I will remove any AI related keywords - but the other images don't have these keywords and got the same treatment...  But all the same - why risk it.

 

I'll await Mr. Hayward's insights before I do anything more with this.

 

Thanks for your advice!

 

-Pete

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I will remove any AI related keywords - but the other images don't have these keywords and got the same treatment...  But all the same - why risk it.


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If the moderator sees all day generative AI, and they can't any more distinguish this from CGI, this is what happens.

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I'll await Mr. Hayward's insights before I do anything more with this.


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That is certainly appropriate. Mat also sees the other side of the wall.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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