If it is being digitally printed, why use Pantone colors which will just be converted to CMYK? Just mix a rich black for the background, a medium rich black for the biz name and a darker one for the dot. You'll gain nothing spec'ing Pantones, except for using up time hunting for the right combo. Mike ... View more

Brilliant, Jet. But I would raise the price after the first couple months out of general principle. And besides, I could always get a new (uh, updated) t-shirt before the image begins to fade and I would always feel as if it were new all the time. Even if there were no changes... ... View more

Mike, My understanding is that with CC, one will be able to install previous versions back to CS6 in order to collaborate with users of previous versions. So at least a CC user can check files in previous versions to ensure they will be able to be opened and worked on with little muss and fuss. That is the only thing I like about CC. Still, none of my customers are moving forward with CC at this time. Until such time as I have customers using CCx, I won't. Take care, Mike ... View more

You can still purchase CS6 as a download from Adobe and some supply channels may still have stock of the physical discs. This option is an install that will always keep working unless at somepoint in the future your operating system no longer supports CS6. If you sign up for the Creative Cloud and make monthly or yearly payments, as soon as you stop paying and the period for which you are paid through is over, the software stops working. Your only option at that point would be to reinstate your payments in order to reactivate the software or sign up again and make payments. Mike ... View more

Scott, have you downloaded the Mac trial of PhotoLine? CMYK support is just fine. I do agree--other than a want to upgrade at every opportunity, CS6 will serve my true needs for some time to come and no one really needs to switch "now" if CS6 is meeting needs. Best regards, Mike ... View more

Noel, It isn't a serious contender. That wasn't the point. Just who does anyone here think is Adobe's primary customer for PS? Pros? Nah. Prosumers? Nah. Neither have been since the so-called DTP revolution in the early 1990s. Adobe's primary customer is the consumer. (Not just Adobe either.) What they have done is to make the cost more palatable for the consumer, not you or me or the majority of the regular posters here. Really, just how many here make a living from photography *and* the manipulation in LR and/or PS of those photographs? The vast majority that use PS can use something far less capable and extensible. That's reality and Adobe knows that. So how to capture those who don't upgrade often, who can and do switch to something else?  Simple. Kill off upgrades from more than one version back. Add a Cloud option in addition to perpetual licenses. Then kill perpetual license. What I would like to see is the Cloud attrition rate versus retention. I am certain Adobe has those figures uppermost in mind. ... View more

CD has Pantone support, James. As does Xara Designer Pro, etc. I too am mainly in print media. As an aside, for layout work, it is hard to beat Serif's PagePlus (new version out soon). It is an easy pill to swallow cost-wise if one pays full price. But if one installs the free version, there is a screen when exiting that usually offers a discount. It's main issue is running headers/footers. I overcome that with multiple master pages when doing books. Main issue is when doing catalogs. But ID CS6 will live a long time on this computer. I likely will take Quark up on their upgrade from any previous version offer they have. I have seen an increase in XML catalogs and repurposing to ePub of late and I'll give Quark another shot. It is hard to imagine Quark having worse CS than Adobe. For both one is on their own--along with leaning heavily upon the user community. Forums have become these company's support service over the years. Mike ... View more

...PSP scripting employs the Python language and an API is provided, making it similar to Ps scripting with JavaScript. Yes, similar in all respects (and in some ways greator than) scripting in AI or ID. And like scripts for AI and ID, there are a lot of free and commercial scripts available (at least for CD...I don't particularly like PSP). Mike ... View more

Same reply as on the PS forum...no. You can provide the art in the form of a PNG image to PowerPoint and copy the text from AI, PS or ID into PP. Mike ... View more

Any valid petition seeks to validate the signers using real info and attempts to eliminate mulitple voting. Really, there are scores of people that will never see the petition to make the choice whether to sign it or not. I do note Adobe stock began to rise on the announcement and has steadily dropped since the 6th. If the backlash doesn't die out, who knows where the stock will end up...and Adobe's choices. Mike ... View more

Jet, btw...Xara has always offered a competitive upgrade. One has to contact them off the purchase page, but it is there. That is how I first made the purchase. And I used a long dead vector application (Professional Draw) to do so. Mike ... View more

I take it as resignation. A "Wanna keep updated, you have no choice" type of thing--and the rationale to make that decision. "Hitler" in the clip found something he could justify the sign-up. BTW, these same people did a vid for when the iPad came out. Pretty funny, too. Mike ... View more

no, me either. i do have options and i don't see my clients switching anytime soon anyway. ... View more

Saw this on the PS forum. Hitler's response to CC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Iw9q2X9cU Quite a production and funny. Mike ... View more

hey, don't shoot the messenger (g). it does beat buying another computer i suppose. when not buying adobe and a few other vendor's products, there are more options at least for some software. ... View more

Sadely PagePlus seems to be a Windows only product. I know of people using XDP and Serif software on Macs using whatever it is that allows one to run Windows applications. Seems fine to them. Several People I personally know, though they switched to Macs installed the whatever it is specifically for XDP. ... View more

Sure. Serif's PagePlus for ID (new version on the horizon). No running headers/footers. A couple other things missing that I don't care about much. Everything has work-arounds. Much faster in use than ID. A bit like a cross between PageMaker and ID. I use it when I don't have to use an existing ID document or return one. PhotoLine for PS (constantly updated, but it does have a dated interface--I don't care). Mac and Windows 32/64-bit versions. My main image editor and one can mix and match vector/bitmap (it does both). Clients could care less what bitmap editor one uses (at least mine). Xara's Xara Designer Pro (new XDP version almost ready to hit the street). Even when I have to return a file in Illustrator format, I do all or most of the drawing in XDP as it is incredibly quicker to use. Can it do "everything" that Illy can? No. I love the appearance panel in Illy. But the effects can still be created in any vector drawing application. Most of my clients could care less what application one uses. I use all three as much or more than Adobe's stuff. And CorelDraw is a good alternative to Illustrator, too. I have used it since version 1. As for charting, that I do not know. But about anything has to be better for charting than Illustrator. Heck, I would likely use LibreOffice's products for charting. ... View more

Microsoft also released perpetual Office 2013. Same product. LibreOffice is the best alternative to MS Office that I have used. Still, as long as MS continues perpetual licenses, I'll update Office Pro as I have clients using it. There are alternatives to everything Adobe offers. Writing there isn't is perpetuating the Adobe myth. What there isn't a replacement for is their foothold into schools and government offices. But that can also change. Who knows if and when it will, though. Adobe is expecting this hub-bub to all die down. And it will eventually. With Microsoft about to alter Windows 8 due to backlash, Adobe could too. Neither is too big to fail. Only economics will alter the decision. Mike ... View more

Yeah, Adobe is already changing its line on "archived" versions. It originally read that only one version back was to have been available. Guess the marketing geniuses hadn't figured out that would have limited one's ability to work with past client files or with clients that will hold onto their perpetual licenses through a couple major version updates. ... View more

Services? Nah. Features? At the rate Adobe rolls out new features we would be looking at AI 21CC to make that a worthwhile proposition. Now, longstanding bug fixes, or usability changes, I would actually have to think about that... ... View more

At least I don't need to budget for CS7 this year. I can just use CS6 until the wheels fall off, then begrudgingly subscribe if needed. But...but...how will Adobe's free support (this forum) work if "everyone" doesn't pay to play? I see Adobe wringing their hands in glee that they now have exponentially increased their beta tester base. No doubt this is to give CC renters a better, more stable, product. And faster, too. Makes me just shiver all over. Mike ... View more

Probably inevitable. CS6 will be the last version for me. Take care, Mike ... View more

Were you able to open the tiff in photoshop that Stellababystars100 posted by using open as jpeg? @R_Kelly--to whom are you asking? CS and CS2 open it when the extension is changed to JPG. PhotoLine opens it with the TIF extension: @Stellabystars: Irfanview has applicability beyond just this task. But it can also batch open/change filtype and save a folder or folders without user intervention. At least if I recall properly. Take care, Mike ... View more

PhotoLine opens the file but will not write over it and I must export it. Then it reopens in both PS and PL and writes back to it just fine. Mike ... View more