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‎Apr 01, 2024
11:10 AM
Thanks for the excellent debugging ideas. The problem does not appear to be finding the location of the corruption -- re-typing the offending paragraph and deleting the old version through its paragraph marker seems to do the trick and allows me to enter the intended cross-reference where I wanted to do so. The problem apparently comes out of nowhere, on an otherwise correctly operating file. I try to do an Xref and - pow - with no indication that anything is wrong. It may be an horizon condition in the Xref code of running ID. Maybe I have left ID running too long on the computer (even though files are regularly saved and closed and reopened) and some memory reallocation (garbage collection) routine is not as efficient as it might be. Basically, I don't know. But I do know how to work around it. Thanks again. -j
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‎Mar 30, 2024
01:11 PM
3 Upvotes
Hi. Using ID 19.3 under Win 11. This post is in the nature of a work-around rather than an actual question, but any comments that help me figure this out and prevent the situation from occurring are always welcome. This issue has occurred with previous versions of ID and I've never figured out why or seen a solution, but the work-around continues to save the day. Here is the scenario: I'm working on a file. Everything seems to be going swimmingly. I realize that I must add a cross-reference earlier in the file to an existing head that appears later in the document. I jump up to the earlier place to insert the Xref, bring up the Xref dialog... and ID crashes and closes. (And yes, I send in crash reports.) On restart, I try again to insert the Xref at the point I wanted to previously... but ID crashes when I bring up the Xref dialog. I've learned that trying this again is fruitless. Something has corrupted the file. I save to an incremented file name, I save to an IDML file, I restart ID, I open the IDML file by itself (not as part of the book or from the book panel) and save it as an incremented INDD file name. I try to do the Xref again... and ID crashes. In searching the forum, I've found suggestions about replacing corrupted fonts (I have deleted and re-installed fonts both through CC and into Windows | Fonts directly in hopes that this will help; I am not mixing font types). But the crashing still occurs. I know of no way to see into the file to determine what may have been corrupted. HOWEVER, I have found that I can work around the situation by: Entering a few carriage returns at the end of the paragraph preceding the one where my Xref insertion apparently caused the crash. Retyping the offending paragraph. (What's 50 words to get a file back?) Deleting the old text including its paragraph marker. At that point, I have been able to re-do the cross-reference where I originally wanted it in the retyped paragraph, and the Xref then works as expected. I can continue working. I generally have no problem with the file after that point. It appears that something gets corrupted at the file level and whatever that corruption is does not respond to being saved as IDML and re-loaded. It appears to be highly localized to wherever I'm trying to insert the Xref, because deleting that text and retyping seems to fix the corruption. (The Xref insertion point is almost always at the paragraph marker because I'm in the process of writing.) I have wrestled with this several times over the past couple of years. Never frequently, but always at a cross-reference. The problem has spanned several versions of ID and Windows updates. I really don't think it's a computer problem because random file corruption would occur elsewhere if this was so (and with other programs) rather than only with Xrefs; I think it's something inside of ID and it has survived version updates. It is not reproducible. It happens when it happens and with no warning. As I say, the work-around works, at least for me, but I'd love your suggestions on how to avoid the problem going forward. Thanks as always to the community. -j
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‎Mar 04, 2024
02:28 PM
SOLVED. I have only proven my own lack of observation. InDesign was saving to FIXED-FORMAT. When I change it to Reflowable, everything worked. I knew it was going to be something stupid. I have outdone myself on this one. Thanks for all help. -j
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‎Mar 04, 2024
02:21 PM
Hi. I placed the index on a fourth page at the end of the other three in the same document (this would be impractical in a big book, as my client is planning). No change. My pages are absolute bare-bones test. I did not create a cover, a TOC, and am not using Lorem Ipsum to generate extra text.... so I may be leaving something out that is critical for KDP. As an aside, I do not see a way within ID to generate any EPUB other than 3.0 to test that. Nevertheless, the EPUB test works in Calibre (Calibre 2 editor, to be precise) but does not work in Kindle Previewer. I may have to create a bigger test doc and go through all the TOC generation etc. to create a more formal EPUB. Thanks -- a lot -- for your advice. Attached an example file. -j
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‎Mar 04, 2024
01:09 PM
UPDATE: Did a quick test without the GREP replacement strings for the Index numbers; so did no pre-processing of the doc containing the index page and no post-EPUB-generation processing. Again, the links worked in PDF, worked in Calibre, and did not work in Kindle Previewer. The file generated as an EPUB 3.0. This may have had an effect. It still seems to me that this process should just work (GREP or no GREP, and without post-processing), thus allowing an EPUB to have an index with links to specific topic locations, even tho EPUBs may have a perfectly good keyword search. Part of the value of an index is to see what topics the author -- or the indexer, at least -- finds important, and where to find their major locations. A keyword search may generate hundreds of hits, not all of which will be important. Will keep poking. -j
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‎Mar 03, 2024
09:16 PM
Thank you for your excellent response. I know the client will expect (a) an index in the print-on-demand document (long and quite technical), and (b) the same index reflected in the EPUB. I tried using Peter Kahrel's GREP method (I did not try to leave the index page numbers in place, but will). I think my advice to the client will be to enjoy the benefits of the nice print index in the POD and resort to keyword search in the KPD -- unless I can make this work. Still mystified, tho. I did the GREP pre-EPUB output -- so no post-EPUB processing -- and it worked in PDF and in Calibre; it just didn't work in Kindle Previewer (leaving the Adobe EPUB previewer out of the discussion). I may try again. Thanks again for taking the time to work through this with me. I will be taking your advice. -j
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‎Mar 03, 2024
02:31 PM
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Hi. Using ID 19.2 under Win 11. My question was partially answered by Peter Kahrel here (it was something of a revelation): https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/is-it-possible-to-convert-index-numbers-in-indesign-to-a-form-other-than-numbers/m-p/14448620#M563505 But my question goes just a little further into EPUB, and I'm hoping for advice from the community. Summary: Like the OP of the linked post, I would like to use an InDesign index in an EPUB. Peter Kahrel ably showed how to use GREP to replace the numbers in an ID index with a string (I used "Go") that maintains the link to the target location, thus allowing a non-page-specific index link to an index target location. This works (great) for PDFs, but does not appear to work in EPUBs, although I can see it work in the Calibre EPUB editor. I'm obviously missing something (mea culpa!) Detail: (This is a duplicate of my question asked 'way down on the OP posting above, hate to ask it twice but I'm not sure how soon anyone might see it.) My question: Summary of problem: The eventual EPUB created using the GREP substitution method does not appear to link from the Index to the instance, and I'm not sure how to figure this out/debug. I am aware that EPUB is a set of zipped HTML docs. Details: I created an InDesign book with two documents; call them targets.indd and index.indd. In targets.indd, there are three pages, each containing a single item; this, that, and the other thing. I created a normal index, which showed the three items and their respective page numbers. I tested this by creating a PDF, and the ID links from the index to the target were in place and worked. I ran the Peter Kahrel's GREP, and replaced each of the page numbers with the word "Go." I tested this revision by creating a PDF, and the ID links from the index to each target still worked (this is great!). I created an EPUB version of the doc. This is where I began to have trouble. In ID, Window | Interactive | EPUB Interactivity Preview showed the target pages and the index page as expected. While the EPUB previewer gave me a finger "pointer," clicking the word Go in the index did not take me to the target (no reaction). I opened the EPUB in Calibre editor (not an Adobe product; I know). In Calibre, clicking the word Go took me to the target -- so as far as the HTML was concerned in Calibre, this arrangement works. I opened the EPUB in Kindle Previewer 3.78 (just downloaded today; not an Adobe product, I know). The Kindle Previewer displayed the three target pages and the Index as expected, but clicking Go in the index did not take me to the targets. There was no reaction to the click. Just like the Adobe EPUB previewer. So in both the Adobe EPUB previewer and in the Kindle EPUB previewer, the index links did not work. But in both PDF and in Calibre, they did. I am puzzled why the links appear to work sometimes but not others. I am sure this is because I am missing something that I otherwise should know. The GREP works just fine... except I don't end up with an index usable in EPUB. Any advice? PS: It may be that Kindle cannot handle an index even though it is made up of unnumbered target links. I can live with that, but want to make sure I'm not simply doing something incorrectly or missing a simple setting. Likewise, it may be that ID's interactive EPUB window won't deal with indexes. I can live with that too, with the same proviso. But Calibre works as expected.... Thanks as always to the community. -j
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‎Mar 03, 2024
01:34 PM
Hi! This is great -- with a small however that shows I am missing something. Summary of problem: The eventual EPUB does not appear to link from the Index to the instance, and I'm not sure how to figure this out/debug. I am aware that EPUB is a set of zipped HTML docs. Details: I created an InDesign book with two documents; call them targets.indd and index.indd. In targets.indd, there are three pages, each containing a single item; this, that, and the other thing. I created a normal index, which showed the three items and their respective page numbers. I tested this by creating a PDF, and the ID links from the index to the target were in place and worked. I ran the GREP, and replaced each of the page numbers with the word "Go." I tested this revision by creating a PDF, and the ID links from the index to each target still worked (this is great!). I created an EPUB version of the doc. This is where I began to have trouble. In ID, Window | Interactive | EPUB interactivity preview showed the target pages and the index page. While the EPUB previewer gave me a finger "pointer," clicking the word Go in the index did not take me to the target. I opened the EPUB in Calibre (not an Adobe product; I know). In Calibre, clicking the word Go took me to the target -- so as far as the HTML was concerned, this arrangement works. I opened the EPUB in Kindle Previewer 3.78 (just downloaded today; not an Adobe product, I know). The Kindle Previewer displayed the three target pages and the Index, but clicking Go in the index did not take me to the targets. There was no reaction to the click. So in both the Adobe EPUB previewer and in the Kindle EPUB previewer, the index links did not work. But in both PDF and in Calibre, they did. I am puzzled why the links appear to work sometimes but not others. I am sure this is because I am missing something that I otherwise should know. The GREP works just fine... except I don't end up with an index usable in EPUB. Any advice? Thanks as always to the community. -j
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‎Feb 29, 2024
07:05 PM
I tried the 3-page method and it worked very well. I was even able to place a guide in the center of the spine panel using Align. You know, every day you learn more about InDesign and layout. It never fails. Thanks to all for the help. I will try the script for centering the ruler. I still say that the ability to center a ruler on a page would be a benefit. -j
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‎Feb 29, 2024
10:21 AM
That 3-page technique is certainly interesting. I will have to try both that and setting the 0-point to the middle of the spine via scripting. Thanks very much. This may be the right answer; will know after I try. -j
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‎Feb 29, 2024
09:48 AM
2 Upvotes
Hi. Using ID 19.2 under Windows 11. Summary: This one has me puzzled. I want to put the 0-point of the Hz ruler EXACTLY in the center of a page of non-standard width. How? Detail: I'm working on a book cover. Because of spine and trim considerations, the cover (a single page, not a spread) must be 17.60674" inches wide. This includes the front and back cover and the spine width. The spine is the center of the cover, and everything is measured to the right or to the left of the centerline of the spine. A quick calculation of 17.60674/2 = 8.80337" from the center to the trim edge of the single page. But I can't seem to find a way to center the 0-point of the Hz ruler exactly on the middle of this 17.60674" distance. (Yeah, I know ID only goes to 4 decimal places and doesn't show the final number 4; the least of my concerns.) I can't seem to figure out how to do this with precision. It seems like I should just be able to click something and say "Center." Information on-line provides several methods of setting the 0-point -- right-click the ruler, and... Ruler per page puts 0-point on the left edge of the page. (not what I need) Ruler per spread puts the 0-point on the left edge of the spread (not working with a spread; don't want the ruler on the left edge) Ruler on spine puts the 0-point on the spine (which in the case of a single page is interpreted as the left edge of the page) Other instructions say simply drag the intersection of the rulers to "any place you want." But "any place" measured by Mark 1 eyeball is not precise enough, I need to specify the center -- plus, once a ruler has been placed "more or less" at the center of the page, any attempt to adjust the ruler's 0-point shows the DIFFERENCE between the previous position and the new position, rather than an absolute position. I've looked at the Info panel, the Properties panel, and the X-position in the ribbon, and it's not obvious to me how to place the 0-point of the Hz ruler at the center of whatever page size I'm working with. I can't believe no one has ever needed to do this but me, so I have missed the technique. How do I place the 0-point of the Hz ruler at the center of a single page -- accurately? Thanks as always to the community. -j
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‎Feb 29, 2024
08:21 AM
All excellent points, and thanks. Is Guides layer non-printing? WOW! YES! I changed this to Print Layer. No effect. (How I had hoped...) Try clicking the triangle for the layer to see if there is anything underneath. (Tried this before and after clicking PRINT LAYER.) Nothing underneath. Turn off all layer visibility except Guides and try editing. Tried. No effect. On attempt to move the guide, I get the X position and a lock icon -- just as before. What I will try next: Save as IDML and load into a new (native 19.2) and differently named file. And if that doesn't work.... Copy the meat of the cover layout and paste into a new file native to 19.2. What I think is going on: I think that a bug locked the guides during the up-versioning of the existing file to 19.2. I have not verified this with other files. I can create a new file and have no difficulty moving guides -- so this is not a general problem, it is a problem with THIS FILE (and maybe others that were up-versioned automatically on opening). Sadly, I can't share the file. If I find anything, I will report. If someone comes up with another good idea, I'll be happy to try... but I think it's an up-versioning bug. Thanks, as always, for the help. -j
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‎Feb 28, 2024
07:28 PM
Observation: I created a new blank document, dragged in a guide, and there is no problem. I think the issue has something to do with the (recent) conversion of the cover doc to 19.2. I may have to copy/paste all the elements EXCEPT the guides into a new doc and add a new guides layer. HASSLE. I wil try that tomorrow...
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‎Feb 28, 2024
06:35 PM
2 Upvotes
Hi. Using InDesign 19.2 64-bit on Win 11 (updated). Summary: I'm having a problem selecting and moving guides. When I try to move an existing guide, the cursor displays a lock icon and the guide does not move. I *think* I have guides unlocked. Images follow. As an aside, if I create a new guide, I cannot move that either once I've dropped it. Detail: Previously, using ID 19.0 (as I recall -- it was only a couple of weeks ago) I created a book cover that needs PRECISE positioning of several elements (notably the room available on the spine and the extra bit of room the binder needs because nothing in the world is every quite exact). I now need to update the guides because the thickness of the book has changed by half a dozen pages - this engenders a re-layout to accommodate. However, I cannot seem to select and move any of the guides. The guides are on their own bottom layer. The layer is not locked (as far as I can tell). The layer and the guides are NOT on a parent page. I am working on a regular page, which is where the guides are. Guides are (apparently) not locked for the document. I can select a guide (it turns black), but when I try to move it, the cursor displays a lock icon. (This is tough to screen-capture, but when I try to move a selected guide, I get a box showing the current X position and a lock icon.) Obviously I am missing something that any good ID user should know (the shame!). Haven't run into this before. I've tried Control-click, Alt-click, shift-click, and plain old click and various combinations. I can select the guide; just can't do anything with it. I would expect to be able to select it and then type into the X box up on the ribbon to reposition it exactly for the revised cover... but this does not seem to work. Thanks as always to the community for any advice. -j PS: there is another post where the poster has the same problem but says, "Oh! It just began to work." But he leaves no details. -j Images: Layers. Guide layer at bottom. Does not appear to be locked. (Yeah, I put in a new guide layer -- and it's there, hidden -- but there's nothing on it because I would rather reposition the existing guides, and besides, when I created a new guide in it, I couldn't move that new guide, either.) View | Guides menu. Guides do not appear to me to be locked (no checkmarks on the subsidiary menu). Current location of selected guide. The X position cannot be changed by clicking the up/down arrows or by typing into the box. Note that the guide is centered. Is THAT doing something I'm not aware of? A collection of guides around the centerline/spine of the cover (back cover and front cover).
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‎Nov 27, 2023
12:15 PM
This is a 98% solution -- thanks. I did not know this existed. I'm using several custom-text variables, and this finds them all... but it's better than searching for the letter "a." 🙂 -j
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‎Nov 27, 2023
11:34 AM
8 Upvotes
Hi. Using ID 19.0.1 with Win 11/updated. I've used a text variable for the product name: "use a <Vapid-20> thingie to...." Why? The client likes to change the names of things mid-project. But they got me this time. They changed it to a name beginning with a vowel. Now it's the <Avapid-20>. I can instantly change the product name everywhere by editing the variable, but everywhere I said "use a Vapid-20" it now has to be "use an Avapid-20." English. Is there any way to search/find a text variable? I suppose I could then use GREP or even scripting to change the word just before it if needed... but I have to find it first. As always, thanks to the community. -j
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‎Nov 02, 2023
06:51 PM
I have answered my own question. You have to adjust the Width parameter of the bevel. Back to the drawing board for me. -j
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‎Nov 02, 2023
06:31 PM
Hi, relative AI newbie, using AI 28.0 on Win 11 (fully updated). I'm trying to create a segmented pyramid. I have gotten this far just with squares. (Still need to play with sizing and lighting and shadows.) I rotated the square in the X axis to lay it "flat." Then I beveled "up." Here is the problem: at the top of the pyramid, I can only bevel so far. I want to bring the pyramid to a point. Perhaps I am using the wrong tool, or there is a different method I should be using instead of 3D. I imagined that the bevel would eventually reach a point... but alas, no. Advice, please, on how to bring the top segment to a point. Thanks as always to the community. -j
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‎Oct 08, 2023
04:10 PM
Been well, yes. Thanks. The uservoice page won't accept the same username and password that I use to log into the forums. Tried several times. Oh, well.... Always experimenting -- currently trying to find a way to "include" one file in another but make it editable and inherit various settings from the enclosing file. No success yet. Thought I might do it with CC libraries, but there doesn't seem to be a usable text "object." Maybe I need DITA... (that's a different story). Thanks again. -j
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‎Oct 08, 2023
03:50 PM
How do I log it as a feature request? I can see how to do that as a new post, but this is already up. Thanks as always for your excellent replies. -j
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‎Oct 08, 2023
03:26 PM
Hi. using ID 18.5 on Win 11 (and everything should be updated). I'm working on a book that includes several files. Periodically, I make cross-references to a head in another file but within the book. When my Xref crosses so many pages, I use the built-in Xref format "<paraText />" on page <pageNum />. This works fine. In one head I used a text variable. Call it <WXYZ>. It is short -- 4 characters. The context is a head like "<WXYZ> Forms and Functions." In the other file, I do the cross reference to that head. But I get only "Forms and Functions." In NEITHER the cross reference dialog box NOR in my in-document cross-reference does the text variable show up. To forestall one possible comment: The same text variable is defined identically in all files of the book. Is there some method I'm missing here, or will text variables used in heads just not appear in cross references? Puzzled. Thanks as always to the community for guidance. -j
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‎Sep 26, 2023
12:54 PM
1 Upvote
Hi. Using ID 18.5 on Win 11 (updated). This is not a bug -- although I'll tag it as a bug, just in case. It's more in the nature of an observation. My general run-of-publication paragraph uses a 12-character GREP style that calls a no-break character style. This ensures that the tail of each paragraph is at least 12 characters long. This works great with general writing. I have a client that has changed the product name 3 times. Let's call it the Whoopeedo High-Tech Dingus Thingie 3.0, which I have enshrined as a text variable so that when the next product name change comes along, I can change it everywhere all at once without a search-and-replace. Now... I am aware that InDesign treats a text variable as though it were a single character. A text variable cannot break across lines, for example. So when I enter <prod>, ID inserts the whole product name, which fits just fine on a column line width, even if it's by itself and it often allows some extra room at the end... say 4 characters or so. This is where the problem happens. If I attempt to type anything in that little scoshe of room after the variable -- say, the word "product," which naturally causes a newline -- the GREP style swings into action. It won't wait for me to finish typing "product." I could have much more text to write. Instead, it won't show the word "product" and immediately inserts several new blank pages. (?) The work-around is to (a) manually enter a newline if I recognize the approaching situation, or (b) remove the GREP style from that one offending paragraph, both of which I've done. What I'd like to have happen is for the program to give me a chance to type more characters (to create better than that 12-character paragraph tail). Alas it is too fast for me. But why it inserts two or three new blank pages is a puzzle... -j
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‎Sep 02, 2023
03:39 PM
5 Upvotes
Hi. Using the brand-new Acrobat Pro v2023.003.20284 on a PC win11 pro. I am about to do a presentantion of a PDF document next week via Zoom. However, the default Acrobat background color is a very light gray, and there is not enough contrast with the white of the document pages (especially when dropping a tone or two in an online presentation). I have researched "change background color" and all the instructions are about how to CHANGE THE BACKGROUND COLOR OF THE PDF. That is, they make the pages of my document a darker gray -- not what I want. What I want is to make that very light gray background color of the Acrobat program itself a darker shade of gray -- not to manipulate the document proper. Is there any way to do this? Thanks. -j
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‎Aug 31, 2023
01:18 PM
Thanks for the response. Why so many? Working on documenting a product suite that uses both names and abbreviations... and not everything is quite nailed down yet on the naming. Could I do a search-and-replace? Sure. But I figured I would try setting up a set of prod-name and prod-abbrev variables. Then when the time came to finalize the product names and abbreviations, I need to change them only in one place. Still puzzling why the 16th variable was not synched to the files.... -j
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‎Aug 30, 2023
05:11 PM
Hi. Using ID 18.5 on Win 11 (updated). I used Synchronize to sync the text variables between two documents, and this process did not transfer all text variables. I have not yet tried to add the missing variable by hand. Is there a maximum number of text variables allowed per file? (I'd imagine it would be something like 255, but it might be 32 or 24 or 16.) New files already come with a set of default text vars; I'm adding a few. I'm not anticipating adding some absurd number -- maybe 8 or 10... but if files are restricted to 16.... Can't seem to find this info documented. Thanks. -j
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‎Jul 16, 2023
11:25 AM
Thanks. Maybe... At first glance I didn't think that's what I was recalling (but what I'm recalling may not be from ID). What I DO see on this dialog (which I've used for ages and not thought about at all) is Continue on next Odd page and Insert Blank Page. This may indeed be what I was recalling.... It will certainly serve until something else pops up! THANKS! Every now and then, one just needs an elbow in the ribs. -j
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‎Jul 16, 2023
10:56 AM
Hi, using Win11 with ID 18.4. I appear to have lost a dialog box that I recall seeing, and I just can't find any more. I'm stumped! Would appreciate guidance. (Or just simple menu directions to it....) I'm working on a book, and I want all chapters to start on a recto page. This is perfectly normal. Really, I've got this working. I can manage this with a combination of Numbering & Section Options (Pages window, Layout menu) The Pages window (and parent pages/single page vs spread) and manually adding extra even-numbered pages to each file end. The book window Document Setup However.... I vaguely remember seeing a dialog where I could specify "Begin file on right-hand page" (or left, for that matter, but I want the traditional recto), and "automatically add extra page at end of file." My problem is that I can't seem to find this dialog anywhere anymore, and when I search on line (and even in the forum) I get results that explain how to number pages or how to make a chapter start on the left-hand page or other responses that do not involve such a dialog box. I have not been able to find my way back to this remembered dialog. (Much like Shangri-La.) I'm not referring to Smart Text Reflow at the bottom of Preferences | Type. This was a different dialog that expressly determined recto/verso starting page and adding new pages at file end to ensure that the file ended on an even page. I could be remembering this from Frame, but, frankly, I haven't used Frame in a long while, and I recall this phantom dialog from very recent use (I recall stumbling upon it, and saying "Aha!") Am I falsely "remembering" something that is not in InDesign, or have I forgotten the magic hidden key combination, like holding CTRL while I click a menu item, or am I just missing something that's right in front of me? Thanks as always to the community. -j
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‎Jun 08, 2023
10:36 AM
Hi. Using ID 18.3 on Win 11. nVidia 2070 Super graphics board I have three monitors. A big one in the center and two smaller wing monitors. ID starts on one of the smaller wing monitors. Moving it to the center monitor is a hassle because the ID program window expands to 3-4 X normal size and spans across all monitors. It's the devil's own time to get it back to "normal" size and to full screen on only the middle monitor, but it's doable. It's just that it's a wresting match every time I start up. (One of several weirdnesses that have started since v18.) Is there a way to control which monitor ID starts on? If it started on the middle monitor, that would be fine. It may be that there is a Registry adjustment I need to make. Thanks. -j
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‎Jun 05, 2023
12:03 PM
I explained in my reply that I believed Move Pages would be likely to move the problem. So, no, I did not Move Pages. I apologize and meant no disrespect. Thanks for the amplification. Had I known that, I would have done it. -j
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‎Jun 04, 2023
01:42 PM
Experiment: I opened the problem file from IDML. It converted to INDD. I deleted all problematic Xrefs. They converted to text. I saved the document at that point as IDML (to a different name). I then opened the IDML and had it convert to INDD. There were NO suspicious Xrefs in the file (according to the Xref dialog). I attempted to add an Xref ("Appendix B" in the paragraph above.) I chose the destination file. I did not get further than scrolling to the style of the paragraph (AppendixNumber). CRASH. Something is seriously wrong here. UPDATE: I'm beginning to suspect that this problem only affects cross-file Xrefs. I'm able to make internal Xrefs even in the problem files without issue. So: What could be present in an IDML file that would make ID unable to perform a cross-file Xref? Update: I was able to do a cross-file Xref to the chapterTitle of another file from my regular paragraph (paragraphROP). When I tried to do the same Xref to the same external file from the same working file that had just succeeded -- but did it from within the Note style paragraph, it crashed. Is it possible that it is the STYLES that have been compromised? Yet Another Update: When I examined the IMDL styles doc for the Note style, it didn't show anything abnormal (to me). Back in the trouble document, I created a new paragraph (not a note), rewrite the text of the note, including Xrefs, which worked, converted that paragraph to a note, deleted the original note, and pasted in the new note (Am I clear? I did a swap.) No problem. I saw another Xref in a regular paragraph that had been converted to text -- one of the scotched Xrefs. In another location, I recreated the link, deleted the original, then pasted the new link in successfully. Now, I'm thinking that somewhere a couple of the INDD files got subtly damaged in a way that ID could not cope with and that damage is propagated -- invisibly -- by the IDML format. At least I haven't found the damage. At this point, the work-around seems to be to rewrite any passage that includes a non-working Xref, delete the original, and paste in the rewrite. Laborious, but I can think of more laborious options. Weeding my garden, for instance. -j
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