TCC ... I'm no coder in any shape or form ... and have no clue how simple or convoluted this might be. From personal conversations at NAB (and yes, staffers were included at times, very circumspectly), I think many if not most of the PrPro team would like to see the option at least if not a change in the UI period. So we're not fighting against PrPro, Ae, or any other specific program team. It's somewhere up above those folks, and I would guesstimate they simply look at their preferences for a Unified Cool Groovy or whatever spiffy verbiage they may choose to use ... see the number of b/f-r's filed over this compared to other things, and don't see that it's that big a deal ... for them. So yes, more & continuing b/f-r's over it is a very good thing. Might even get it through eventually, I sure hope so. However, I do know how difficult it is for many people to look past their own "understanding" of something, to see what it's like from another viewpoint/perspective. For instance, dealing with most Professional Educators as our autistic son has made it through school was pretty decent to awesome for a few. But there were a couple teachers ... well-trained, highly respected ... who had Their Way of Doing X. Period. In meetings even with autism specialists, it could be directly noted that approaching X from that demanded approach would cause a major issue, and that a very slight amelioration to XY would get their point across without issue. As someone with spectrum issues simply can't do that specific approach, while a simple modification takes all the problems out. No way don't even think about it! They simply didn't see why anyone else's issues should even cause them to consider the slightest change in the way they did X. And that's with people supposedly trained to sympathy in dealing with physical/handicap issues ... which the blue thing in PrPro is for some of us. However, I know a lot of people who have no problem with "seeing" the blue, will simply look at the comments about the difficulties in properly resolving medium to deep blue on a charcoal background ... no matter the proof offered to show the science behind it ... look at the screen which looks easy enough for them to 'see' for a few moments ... and decide there really isn't anything to worry about. They literally do not see the problem, and because of that, they don't credit anything that contradicts what they see. They're not mean, nasty, or intending to be rude. Just having a very human non-response to what they perceive as someone else's tiny little insignificant problem. They just don't see that it could be a major one. And I'd guess, as this might not be that big a deal to handle, it isn't because it would cost a lot or anything ... the people holding back on the decision simply don't see it as worth considering. And for those for whom this blue is a physically painful issue, it's hard to comprehend someone else ​can't​ see it as at least worth considering. I hope they do at some point. Neil ... View more

This is a LONG thread, like the one that also recurs on the subscription pricing. Yep. Those who are passionately against the UI color change & subscription pricing are just that ... passionate about it. I'm in one group (UI color) and not in the other one. Hence the long long thread life for these two subjects. As someone with what, 38 years of running my own business, I've had numerous people get angry with me that my pricing and policies were wrong wrong wrong! That I was ripping people off, that I was inconsiderate, that ... all sorts of things. I would note that most of the people complaining made 2-5 times per year than I and my wife ever have from our business. In response, we worked to make our pricing & policies more clear ... but have never taken what those who didn't like our pricing thought into account when planning how we were going to run our business to both take proper care of our clients & our own family. Perhaps you and I disagree on this, but to me it seems that Adobe made a change on the UI from someone Upper Above Mere Mortals ... some overall committee perhaps ... to "unify" their stable of programs with a New Look. Granted, not all programs actually adopted that New Look, which makes the unhappy clients of those that did ... unhappier ... when it's stated that this was a Company decision applied Company-wide. Or at least, mostly so. Non of us users are aware of any of the discussions as to why some programs 'took the look' and others didn't. I don't even personally think it was a change that most of the PrPro team felt nearly as important as say, working on the audio setup or some of the other continuing issues that cause daily problems. However it was made, that decision was made and applied to many Adobe programs, and it was a Bad Thing for some of the user-base. Unfortunately for them (such as thee & me) it wasn't a major issue for (apparently) the majority of the users. I know that it was discussed in the aisles at NAB last year, but ... more interest was in what was going on with the Lumetri color panel stuff, HEVC implementation, 4k & above editing/exports, and improvements to the audio setup tools. FAR more interest, in fact. Well ... I know from those discussions that if you took the folks walking around NAB and polled them for their Top 5 Needed Changes, there's a darn good chance UI color wouldn't make the list. Not that I'm happy about that, but ... realistic. It might make a Top Ten list ... but it'd be lucky to hit 10. And most of the respondents would be vastly more interested in the items above it. So, it's not high on the list coming from the user-base, other than those for whom this is a major issue. I do understand how some men above 40 especially will have physical problems trying to work with this program, and will need to find an alternative ... period. Which clearly, Adobe does not provide. I don't find this a good situation. But what I find, and what Adobe middle-management sees as Important, aren't necessarily aligned. I'd appreciate some sensibility to the issue, but ... I'm not holding my breath at this point. I can use it as-is without strain, for the hours per day I use it. Which puts me in a better 'boat' than some others, I know. I don't like the color, it's not as quick for me to 'see', but I'm working. Others simply can't. But that group that can't isn't clearly a large group. And so the decision we'd like hasn't been made. And probably isn't in the works, though maybe with enough b/f-r's filed, it could be. I hope so. I don't think however it makes Adobe a 'bad' company any more than our not changing to the cheap and "you're free to copy after buying only one 4x5" policies that a number of clients have tried to demand of us. Neil ... View more

Claude, Adobe is not having any problem with their company profitability ... period. The user-base has been "doing fine", and given that, unfortunately I don't see any huge reason that those of us who would prefer a different color in the UI have a huge lever to force a change. In either UI or pricing according to subscription, for those that feel passionate against that. I'm a "splitter" on those two issues ... would prefer gold or red or green to the medium blue, but am quite happy with the subscription pricing. And ... having communicated with many other users over the time since the swap of the UI colors, the vast majority either don't care or prefer the blue. I have to assume that thee & me & those like us are nowhere near a significant portion of the user base, no matter how passionate we are, to over-ride the comfortability or at least lack of concern of the majority of the users. I'm not happy with this ... but it's reality. Neil ... View more

Nice bit of analyzation on the opera-house titles. Portland Opera simply translates whatever language is being sung into semi-condensed English ... in white. As to Adobe listening/not listening, they do it their way. So some features the user-base calls for make it through the filtering process as to what they will budget time/expenses for, some don't. There are multiple layers involved, starting with the actual engineering teams at the bottom, going through their managers, then up the line through layers that must also include people looking at overall things for a general area such as the video apps or such, and those even higher looking at the Adobe "brand". Some things clearly come down from On High on those "brand" issues that just have to be followed by those cashing checks from Adobe, such as if they've imposing an "Adobe Look" on UI's. Some things come down from the General Area people, who are looking into the near future of where they see the associated programs going, what the 'market' user base will in general be interested in working with. This probably has more impact on the features suggested for tools/effects & such. And some things come from the engineers, most of which seem to be decent users of the software in their own right. So ... some of the things "we've" pushed for have made it into the "do this!" queue. Such as the scopes introduced in Sg 2014, now used in the PrPro Lumetri color panel. A VAST improvement. Many haven't ... such as some things in audio for PrPro and the ability to modify audio track properties on a current sequence in particular. And of course, the UI color. Neil ... View more

Adobe hasn't had enough of the bug-reports filed over it to really jump this to the top with the upper-level managers who decide "over-all" things compared with the growth of the PrPro user-base. That's pretty clear, as IF they had, they would have budgeted the engineer time to work on it. Personally, I'd vastly prefer the old yaller-gold changeable text, but ... much as many of us wished, it's not coming back. I disagree with the decision, but they've not called for my personal viewpoint. I just don't understand ... Neil ... View more

Nothing to worry about. Given what SO many programs do do these days a little suspicious thinking seems normal to me. Some machinesjust get wonky with the way PrPro works, and tracking down which driver or whatever gets wigged out over what action can be such a joy. Ahem. Been there done that. Neil ... View more

The vast majority of us aren't having this issue so it's clearly something to do with your setup somehow. It isn't that they're monitoring us all. The Adobe Library bit of software is all bright new and I wonder if that glitched on your machine. Neil ... View more

Huh. And you used multiple mouses through different interfaces & got the same reaction ... huh. I'm stumped. Neil ... View more

Huh. What sorts of effects do you have on that sequence? Does it do the same if you start a new sequence in a new project for a test? Neil ... View more

To my knowledge there isn't anything in PrPro that "phones home to Adobe" ... unless you're doing something with say the Library panel functioning and content going back and forth from their stock setup. So ... the timeline plays ok, it's primarily a problem of the controls not responding promptly? Neil ... View more

USB3 - attached drives. What all do you have on the external drives? USB3 isn't quite fast enough for sustained throughput in both read & write to keep PrPro running fine, so if there's more than say the media on the external via USB3 you've got a bottleneck there. Reading media and exporting are both one-way processes essentially, so they can get by on a slower connection IF they're the only part of the process on that connection. If you've got your project file, media, and say database cache out "there" together, I would expect a lot of lag as the computer struggles to get things out & back again. A 4-core with 10GB RAM and AMD video card isn't a really 'hot' machine for the later versions of the CC video apps ... Neil ... View more

Thanks would got to Kevin & J. Strawn and the main engineering section of the PrPro team ... I'm pleased that the Direct Link between PrPro & Sg is now working like "it should" ...  and I understand a LOT of the Mac issues are better now ... which is wondrous, as that's been a right pain for so many. Neil ... View more

Good to hear ... Neil ... View more