What is your OS? And how did you import your media into PrPro, and ... are the video AND audio track selectors showing blue ... so you know they're "targeted"? Neil ... View more

J. Simon's comments are dead-on. When I first started pro video work, I came from being a pro portrait studio photog of 35 years (at that time) and used to organizing my image files for best working AND best backup/archiving ... which are two different steps by the bye ... I found working in video very, very different ... and had to learn completely new organizational skills to get things so they both played smoothly during processing AND were easy to back up & to archive. Took some work, and trying one set of folder structures out, then another ... and finally ended up with the current setup. And most everyone does it a bit differently. But yes ... organize on disc before importing! Neil ... View more

There are still issues for a LOT of Win10 users ... the patches they put out seem to be helping some. Neil ... View more

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Well, it's just starting out afresh with a clean install as if for a new computer ... then one by one adding in the programs. A number of the folks here note it does take them a couple hours to do this way but again ... it also means they have a rock-solid fallback to meet deadlines if they do encounter problems. We'd all like to think the software folks either for OS or for programs will ship totally bug-free stuff we can immediately start using and still get work out the door. Having seen the howls on these forums over several of the Mac updates/new-ish OS releases of the last couple years, and coming from  the PC side, having watched the releases of the programs also have interesting & useful new features only to find once released into the Wild that they've also got a bug here and there and oh ... "dang ... one just put me out of operation" ... not being my favorite phrases to utter, I've seen the wisdom of the test before leap idea. To each their own, of course. And it's in the first-jumpers that the rest of us get to hear whether it works or not ...  Neil ... View more

El Capitan is screwing up with all sorts of software AND hardware ... even to MS Office. If an OS has as many serious issues as El Capitan currently does, how is Adobe supposed to sort that out? Re-write their entire OS for them? Same thing has been going on with Windows 10 ... especially on first release, it was a flipping disaster for many in the graphics areas from video to sound to stills. Over the last couple months they've actually released various mini patches as simple "updates" and apparently fixed many issues with some percentage of users. There are some on here who are doing great in Win10 ... and some who simply try it and have to run back. I've had issues with Adobe's work at times but you can't blame them for an OS with major stupidity built in. I expect Apple will get that going ... eventually ... but you may not want to run any pro video work through it for the current time. Best practice anyway is to NEVER do a major software update mid-project ... especially without a backward-restoration plan in place. And that includes both OS and programs. A suggestion as to how to test out an OS ... get a new disc, take out your "old" operating drive ... and do a fresh install of the new OS on the new disc. When it shows it's running fine, then one by one download & install your needed programs, testing each out on download on test projects. When everything works fine ... go ahead and start working your normal work. But ... if along the install process, anything breaks ... take the new disc out, put in your old OS disc ... and get back to work in 5 minutes flat. Neil ... View more

I noted with Win7 that I have to manually download the codecs for those from the MS support site. Windows doesn't seem to "ship" with many codecs at all. Don't know if Win10 is like that, but ... past an old-style jpeg, a standard Win7 install "sees" almost no stills and very few video formats. Hope you get that going. Neil ... View more

Understand. I'd add they haven't moved SpeedGrade forward since adding the new scopes and Direct Link back in the original CC or first CC2014. In some ways, it's feeling like it's gone backwards. Worries me. The new color workspace porting a fair amount of Sg's color science/controls into PrPro is in all a good thing, but parts of it aren't working exactly right (just filed bugs on the sat control bending the color left around the wheel and distorting a narrow "spike" of color into a wider diffused color mush) ... and they haven't done anything at all to announce in 2015 or the next partial-upgrade release either, as they've announced what changes are coming an nothing is slated for Sg. The new color workspace in PrPro does mean a lot of basic work is easy enough to do it there & quickly, with a vastly better UI than say the three-way or fast color correctors ... to me, those are sick. Though they can be made to work. But that workspace is nowhere near the equivalent of a full grading program. Neil ... View more

The decision process, within the Adobe programs as far as the user-base can see, is only partly driven by the program teams themselves. I've met most of the people involved with the back end of PrPro and SpeedGrade, and several other folks, at NAB in Vegas the last couple years. Every one of them does their own professional editing/grading work besides working for Adobe ... so they're heavy users of this stuff themselves. And rather nice people also. But they're not the ones who call the shot for what bugs & features get included in each "cycle" ... there are people up above the teams who are tasked with studying the tabulated list of bug & feature reports to parse out how much of which section of the user base is affected; ... with doing market-research analyzation for what new features would get the most "buzz" or interest; ... and with determining the list of things that are worked on by the teams. To get allocated budget, something has to be either way up the bug or feature report list, or catch the fancy of the marketing team. And then throw in that some "UI features" are decided even higher than that, that X programs across these areas all have to have the same color scheme or whatever ... at which point (unfortunately) the users of one program who intensely dislike the 'new' look of their program are cast against the users of a different program who love the new look. Among the features talked about over the last three years of "this" topic, this issue has a very small request rate here on the forum. Would it be a useful feature? For some, yes. So, among many other things, ideally I'd like to see this implemented. For many editors, WS is a rarely used tool. For them, they'd rather have say a UI return to the "gold" text color by a long way. That's just Life ... your necessary tool isn't even involved in this other editor's tool kit. And what another needs you both look at and complain no one needs that more than you need your tools fixed. The arguments we've had here ... driven by being different humans with different ideas and needs. Neil ... View more

I'd doubt they'll work on bringing CS6 into Win10 ... they might, I'm no insider-expert dude. Still, they've made it clear CS6 is an old laid-to-rest product. That you're welcome to use as long as it's useful. For me, I'm running geez ... PrPro, SpeedGrade, AfterEffects, Audition, Prelude, Photoshop, Lightroom, inDesign, Muse, & Acrobat. If I were paying out $450 or so for each of those every 14/18 months ... wow. That would be around what, $250/month outlay cost over 18 month life-cycles? And if I did what we did at times in the past, skip an ish at times ... gee, I could be clear down to $150/month or a bit above. No, for me the "CC" setup is way cheaper. Neil ... View more

My builder is also ... naturally, from long experience ... VERY uncomfortable with a "major" OS update without wiping ... and I do mean WIPING ... the drive ... first. Also, just as paranoid about not doing it without a complete fresh clone of the machine in "current" state. A way back must be there ... Neil ... View more

Just an fyi ... I've seen a few comments from people who'd done the upgrade and had hash for results. Wiped the drive and did a clean Win10 install, and it worked. No personal experience, but if you're testing for us ...  Neil ... View more

From personal and group discussions at NAB, several "major" video software/hardware vendors made blistering comments about a certain non-MS OS maker. Ahem. Not that they wanted public acknowledgement of their comments mind you. But it was a wide and nicely varied group of vendors. They looked back on the days when being THE graphics OS was A Thing for Apple with great fondness ... but the total agreement was those days are long gone. Apple is all about "devices" ... phones, ipads, watches, everything "consumer" and has little corporate concern for the pro graphics business anymore. It's just not enough of their total market share to catch the interest of those at the top. I found their comments about what in practical terms has changed ... illuminating. I guess two main things. -They now get less time to test the new release out than before, and less specific info on what coding has changed than they used to get. With all the potential hardware pieces and potential combinations not even counting various software running stuff through that hardware, this is a complex and difficult task to test for and make changes to firmware/drivers to mate between current software that might be in use and the new OS and the current hardware. -The vendors have little if any means of getting any change in the OS to be released no matter what that new release may "break", which is quite different ... Apple wanted to make sure the thing worked with the hardware & software of the graphics/video business, now ... well ... that's not their problem. There was some forth & back before, that's pretty much non-existant now. The general agreement? They get more "ears" at MS these days, which for that group, is quite a shock. And look at all the troubles that Win10 has been having with video ... and now some hi-tech folks are posting that much of that is because Win10 dropped so much "past" code sections to get leaner & faster (which it actually is), and so it's going to be a scramble for the gear & software vendors to re-firmware/driver things to work within the new OS. Some pieces probably just won't work, they've got chips just too outdated. But when this is sorted, they think Win10 will be a very good OS to move forward with. As a PC user from the get-go, this is just ... bizarre. "We" knew Apple cared a lot more for graphics pros than MS, we just wanted to save some serious bucks on gear. Now ... it ain't the case. So ... if the other vendors feel Apple isn't giving them nearly enough time & info to re-tool their stuff for OS updates ... then the same might be the case for Adobe. Which is why a number of Mac users here have been harping on the board for other Mac users to NEVER allow your machine to auto-update the OS. Several of the "simple dot updates" in the last couple years have completely broken all pro video capabilities. It's the old suggestion to wait for others to figure out how broken the "new improved" model is before adopting it. Neil ... View more

There are a lot of folks who would LOVE for Adobe to build for Linux also ... go ahead and file the ol' bug/feature request over it. Those actually get compiled and delivered to the folks up-line at Adobe who decide where each team gets budgeted (allocated) time for repairs/new features. https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform I've wondered about 10/video in general. As there are a number of people in other places having odd issues with video program performance on Win10. They left out "outmoded" pieces, eh? That are probably used by a lot of say the internal/external adapters or various software sections/effects ... and now will need to be re-coded within the video apps. Sounds like that might be part of the issue ... Neil ... View more

That idea of the second SSD set to clone a current system & then upgrade with the ability to jump back ... we did that with mine a couple machines back. Saved my bacon when the new Ish of Os went belly with some of my parts. Very good & wise. And yea, most of us here just want to get people working again ... and NOW, not tomorrow or next week sometime. Agreed ... I'm watching the Win10 threads largely because I do want to upgrade as soon as it seems ... safe, mostly. And yes, we'll do it with as much reliance on cloned current system as possible when we do jump. Because ... some of the people running safely on 10 have noted significant (incremental) speed/processing increases. Who doesn't want that, right?  Neil ... View more

Thanks, Resh ... didn't mean to berate, but seriously question something. As clearly noted or obvious implication, some people are doing well in Win10 ... maybe even the majority for all I or anyone knows. But a lot of people with good experience, and well-built systems from the ground up are having vexing problems. So ... it would seem ... if one is building a machine for Win10, it might be prudent to get it up and running solidly before depending on that machine for crucial, deadline-oriented professional work. That machine he has, from what specs we've seen, is a serious beast. It should work very well if all the peripherals are as well chosen as the key parts we know of. If he has to rely on it immediately, however, the fastest way forward for him might be "back" ... to Win8 or even 7 ... just to get work out the door. As a possibility. My stills peers have noted for the most part Win10 being very fast and "light" in feel. The first time they've really felt MS built a dang good OS. And yes, some/many are working ok on 10  ... but ... maybe it will settle out in another dot-release of 10 and of the various video apps we all run (which is rather all over the map). Personally, I would choose to build a 10 machine while keeping my 7 rig up & running, move over after testing it thoroughly. Or wait until nearly everyone just flies on it. And yes, ANY help forward for those on 10 with problems is good to get on these boards. Neil ... View more

Forgive me ... but I don't understand why in Heaven you built a hot pro-machine like that and installed Win10, with the mess of problems video people are having with that OS still? And it ISN'T just the Adobe programs ... cards/boxes/external bits from various companies work with this machine on Win10 but don't on that one almost identical ... there's all sorts of crap going on like that. With most of the software/hardware used on pro work still having difficulties with certain installations that are being darn difficult to hammer out, running Win10 seems to me a huge gamble. I don't care how much the OS maker says it's stable or ready for pro work ... or how much the other companies say their stuff works on it ... the in-the-wild experience is clearly it's a crap-shoot. Win10 seems pretty stable and workable for most stills shooters I know. Runs pretty fast, actually. In video ... wow, there's howls in different places where Adobe ain't even used. I don't think the video part of Win10 is "nailed" yet. Given what I've seen for posted comments, even if PrPro was "solid" on Win10, if you're running a bunch of internal/external additions like most editors/colorists do, you might likely have a problem with one of those. Would you still blame Adobe? Or really, how would you know? Neil ... View more

Hope I've been of assistance. Neil ... View more

One of the pains of AVCHD use is the way it stores info about each clip in multiple folders. And constantly breaks a "shot" into a series of short clips that it lists in the accompanying database are really "one" shot. Which is, at heart, why AVCHD file use means copying the flippin' folders along to make sure the program can read and properly "connect" things. A LOT of cameras create them, and some offer alternative codecs/wrappers that don't require copying databases and other info files also. My GH3 shoots in AVCHD ... but it's also a bit noisier than in H.264/mov. Many cameras have their highest bit-rates or such in AVCHD and you sorta need to use it .... However, one either adapts to the need to copy everything, or uses say Prelude to import & transcode the clips to a different codec for keeping on the computer. I know of people that do that just to get what you want ... SOME of the minutes of several hours of AVCHD clips across many cards. This might work for you. Neil ... View more

Good to know. Thanks ... Neil ... View more

I used to have a lot more willingness to "get under the hood". Now, agreed, I'd just like to work. Sigh. Neil ... View more

And Apple has nearly abandoned their once-vaunted "We ARE the graphic artist OS" pledge. The only OS with worst posts on here at times than Windows is ... Mac. Holy smokes a few of their OS updates have blown out the editing pros. Complete to junking usability of a $1500 video card in a 6-month old Mac monster, that sort of thing. With an attitude of "tough ... ain't our problem." So ... for a lot of issues in the Adobe DVA's over the last year or two, they've been Mac specific ... with people getting hammered with an OS update & needing to pull their OS version back to one that works and such not. What a joy ... the Windows side (other than 10) has been comparatively stable, odd as that sounds. Neil ... View more