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Brainiac
March 17, 2009
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I don't like it.

  • March 17, 2009
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Well, not surprisingly the Adobe team went and mucked up what I feel is the best forum on the Internet. They made it look like every other forum on the Internet, with just too much going on.

The clean, plain simple look of the current forums is superior to any other I've ever seen, and changing that is just not worth whatever new 'forum features' might come along. If you can't add new features with the current look, then just don't do anything.

Specifically, the original author of the post is a "who cares" type of thing. It's not needed in a message view. This is worse than what we now have.

Likewise the "views" and "replies" are not required information, and only serve to mess up the view. This is worse.

The message Subject has too little room to display, so it gets wrapped to a second line. This is worse.

Maybe it's not obvious, or not implemented yet, but I see no flags telling me there are replies that I haven't read yet. This is worse.

When you open a message thread, we have the familiar "forum look" which is very much worse than the very clean look we now enjoy.

Like the Home/End shortcuts, and the handling of subclips, Adobe went and 'fixed' something that wasn't broke, thus effectively breaking it.
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    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    March 22, 2009
    >And you call yourself a "Webmaster!"

    No I don't call myself that. That title which I didn't like was bestowed on me When I looked after the Vpea.org website for a number of years.

    No am far from an expert. I was just commenting on the merits of the phpBB style.

    And if its so easy, how cume it wasn't implemented in the new system?

    :-)
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    March 22, 2009
    Ann,
    >God preserve me from Apple's Forums one of the ugliest, inefficient and worst thought-out ones on the planet

    Agreed. I can't stand them. When I do need information that can only be obtained by posting there, I always rely on email notifications to go back for answers. No way am I going to browse their forums.

    Their search engine is useless too.
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    March 22, 2009
    >My Opinion:Bulletin Boards using phpBB look better.

    I have no idea who posted that, since I only saw the quote in Ann's post. It must be one of the plonked posters. Without needing to check whom I may be offending, that quoted line is a throughly clueless, asinine statement. :D
    Cindy-
    Known Participant
    March 21, 2009
    Webmaster? Noooooooooooo. Phil?
    Known Participant
    March 21, 2009
    Even the most half-assed forum scripts can provide more than one user-selectable "skin" or set of styles in a CSS, Phil.

    And it's possible for those skins to look VASTLY different from one another.

    And you call yourself a "Webmaster!"

    March 21, 2009
    >I've never seen another forum that used this version of WebX.

    And I have never seen another Forum that is as well designed, elegant and usable as this one.

    God preserve me from Apple's Forums one of the ugliest, inefficient and worst thought-out ones on the planet (which is astonishing when you consider the outstanding clean design, proportions, shapes, elegance and sheer beauty of their hardware).
    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    March 21, 2009
    I didn't say anything about the scale. Perhaps phpBB is under powered. I was commenting solely on the look.
    What unique about phpBB (some forms) is that Background colors are customizable to a point. And if avatars are available , if not used that area collapses if one is not used. And If one is used minimum space only is maximum length of avatar.

    Many user groups related to shareware applications such as TypeIt4Me, Default Folders Ambrosia (Snapz Pro X) and such use either phpBB or similar. The Adobe Forums (WebX) has been unique among Forums. Even Apple's Forums are similar looking, to phpBB.

    I've never seen another forum that used this version of WebX.
    March 21, 2009
    >My Opinion:Bulletin Boards using phpBB look better.

    For a local group of a hundred people or less? Perhaps.

    But I don't think that you have the slightest inkling of a clue of the scale of operations that is involved here.

    (I have seen the one that I think you are referring to!)
    March 21, 2009
    Ramón:

    I have already installed Eric's script along with the other script by Mark Boyd:

    http://adobeforums.adobe.com/message/1617137#1617137

    which renders the Avatars and those pompous self-satisfied "Community Expert" Badges invisible!

    Isn't it odd that we are told that the Jive software does not support customization and two individuals can provide a fix with about 20 minutes work?

    Adobe seem to have picked the wrong guys to create their New Forums!

    8/
    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    March 21, 2009
    > "Hands up anyone who knows enough about the practical criteria to say what other package would have (a) been better in function and form, however you define that, and (b) up to the job in terms of handling the load etc."

    My Opinion:Bulletin Boards using phpBB look better.