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August 19, 2009
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Why are we still moving threads?

  • August 19, 2009
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The thread "New to Adobe Flex" which was posted here is now in the Flex forum.  Wouldn't it have been less confusing to the OP if it was just left here with a note saying to post in the other forum?  Who knows if they'll see their answers now..  if the OP had asked for it to be moved that's fine but is moving a thread and leaving no indication it was here such a good idea?

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    Correct answer JayJhabrix

    We all know the reason... the high-handed, i know what's best attitude. There was a wrong post here by some poor dude, yesterday or the day before, with a question on Premiere. i replied pointing him to the right forum... poof! the entire thread was shifted...

    The deterioration of these forums with the introduction of Jive is matched only by the deterioration of the quality of moderation...

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    recsoft
    New Participant
    August 31, 2009

    this has been happening to me for a few days. i couldnt read any of my posts. i thought i was being censored. some of them came back. not sure whats going on.

    Aiyanna

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    Anonymous
    August 31, 2009

    Well if you were not being censored before you are now.

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    Anonymous
    August 31, 2009

    Even more than you would think, Jiveware is reporting recsoft/Aiyanna as having 0 posts even though right up there, I think that counts for at least one....

    JIVE CAN'T ADD

    They are stupid... most buggy mf software I've ever seen....

    But anyway SEE, I TOLD YOU THIS CAUSES CONFUSION, MODS.

    J
    JayJhabrix
    Inspiring
    August 20, 2009

    I give up... the whole exercise is pointless...

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    Anonymous
    August 20, 2009

    JayJhabrix wrote:

    I give up... the whole exercise is pointless...

    Pretty much. We're Jived.

    Curt Wrigley
    Curt Wrigley
    Inspiring
    August 19, 2009

    I believe it is more polite to move a thread to the correct forum and provide a link to the OP, then to tell them to re-post in the right place.   I usually receive a postive response from the OP using this workflow.   I am thinking of the OP when doing this.  I believe it is the best way to help them as the ones who post here by mistake are generally new users and typically appreciate the extra help.

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    JayJhabrix
    Inspiring
    August 19, 2009

    Please intervene where required... needless help is no help... this thread should give you enough clues on that issue... for the rest, 'silence is golden'...

    Claudio González
    Claudio González
    Brainiac
    August 19, 2009

    So that's what happened with that thread! I was yesterday reading JJ's perfectly civilized message telling the OP where to post the question, when the thread simply vanished. I thought maybe my eyes were playing more dirty tricks on me, and I didn't want to add more fuel to the fire asking why the thread had been deleted in case it had, so I didn't say anything.


    I think that the usual way of politely telling poor lost souls were to post is a simpler and quite less confusing way of dealing with these problems.

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    JayJhabrix
    Inspiring
    August 19, 2009

    Claudio González wrote:


    I think that the usual way of politely telling poor lost souls were to post is a simpler and quite less confusing way of dealing with these problems.

    Quite However, doubt if those are the objectives...

    Ozzwoman9
    Ozzwoman9
    Inspiring
    August 19, 2009

    I thought someone mentioned that the posts are 'copied' for a while before it actually gets moved into the correct forum I know I have seen several posts that were showing both here and in their appropriate forum for a while before it was 'fixed'.

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    JayJhabrix
    Inspiring
    August 19, 2009

    Ozzwoman9 wrote:

    I thought someone mentioned that the posts are 'copied' for a while before it actually gets moved into the correct forum I know I have seen several posts that were showing both here and in their appropriate forum for a while before it was 'fixed'.

    It's reached the stage where they don't even know what they're doing any longer... 

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    JayJhabrixCorrect answer
    Inspiring
    August 19, 2009

    We all know the reason... the high-handed, i know what's best attitude. There was a wrong post here by some poor dude, yesterday or the day before, with a question on Premiere. i replied pointing him to the right forum... poof! the entire thread was shifted...

    The deterioration of these forums with the introduction of Jive is matched only by the deterioration of the quality of moderation...

    Curt Wrigley
    Curt Wrigley
    Inspiring
    August 19, 2009

    So you are suggesting its wrong to move threads when they are in the wrong forum?

    The premiere thread I moved to the premiere forum where it belongs.  I PMd the OP with a link to its new location.

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    Anonymous
    September 14, 2009

    Kind of like a tag line I have on my signature I have in my email signature. It isn't grammatically correct (intentional) but it gets the point across.

    "If it ain't broke, Don't fix it!"


    ain't is a mountain colloquialism that orignally was a contraction for am not if following the word I. But can also mean is not if it follows the word it.


    PjonesCET wrote:


    ain't is a mountain colloquialism that orignally was a contraction for am not if following the word I. But can also mean is not if it follows the word it.

    Unfortunately many times software people use the excuse of "improvement" to "fix" things that work fine.  And sometimes it really is better, but... often not.  Which is why you don't commit to the change until after you're certain it's better.  AFAIK we didn't even get to see a beta/test version (did we?), the forums were simply jived up one day with no turning back.  No rollback contingency plan at all?  Nothing at all could be done? 

    It was a huge, huge mistake to "fix" WebX leaving NO PATH OF RETREAT to go back if Jive turned out to be the disaster it is. 

    If Adobe was an army, we'd all be dead in the fields right about now.

    Curt Wrigley
    Curt Wrigley
    Inspiring
    August 19, 2009

    I cant speak for all Hosts, but when i move a thread, I PM the OP with a link to the thread in its new location.

    I wasnt invloved in the thread you mention, but based on the title it seems the flex forum is the logical place for it,.

    pwillener
    pwillener
    Brainiac
    August 20, 2009

    Curt Wrigley wrote:

    I cant speak for all Hosts, but when i move a thread, I PM the OP with a link to the thread in its new location.

    PM-ing people, especially newcomers, doesn't mean much.  It took me several weeks to find out that when Your Stuff is glowing slightly orange, that I had a PM.  Even now that I know, it is very easy to overlook when it does.

    Moving topics to the right place seems to be a good idea to me, but only if a "shortcut" is left in the original forum, with a pointer to the new location.  Every forum software that I have ever used can do that.

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