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Brian_Raila
Inspiring
March 24, 2021
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Unable to see my Reply added to a Post

  • March 24, 2021
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Still trying to solve this difficulty; gaining no replies; it appears I can Post, but cannot Reply –– Calling all Moderators !

 

– – –

 

At a post, I hit Reply.

 

Type my comment.

 

Hit Post.

 

My reply does not show as a new reply.  Did a Refresh, Sign Out, etc.  Nor does it appear in 'My follows', though other new Replies do show there. 

 

What am I overlooking?

 

This topic has been closed for replies.
Correct answer Brian_Raila

 

I happily report the [unbelievable] news of a Correct Answer.  (All in a week's work, as the saying goes.)

 

Here was the key:

 

 wrote:
But I wonder: You can post all these things here. Maybe your problems has to do with a part of your content???

 

That got me plugging in here, test after test (as seen in the following endless litany of test Replies from me).  I'd been reluctant to 'dirty' this discussion by doing so.  But, oh, the value of a workbench.  And here's what it came down to – believe it or not:

 

I had a draft, including links, including italic text [successful final Post found here].  The draft sat in Apple's TextEdit app, RTF formatted.  Copy from TextEdit, Paste in Forum worked fine, as you would expect.  Except for ONE thing.

 

The finding is, that buggy appearance of posting behavior, may be entirely attributable to buggy content in the Post.  I may not have every detail correct, but it's along these lines.  That ONE thing, was –– a link embedded in a character string –– that is written in italics !!!  Can you believe it?  In fact, it's even more obscure: "So long as that string is the output of Apple's TextEdit.app."

 

Solution?  Opened the draft in LibreOffice Writer.  Didn't change a thing.  Didn't delete, then reinstate, failing links, etc.  Copy from LibreOffice, Paste in Forum.  I'm omitting some detail, but that's the gist.

 

I guess the moral of the story is –– for critical writing matters, Apple's not your go-to provider.  Reminds me of all the confusion in the Acrobat Forum, around folks who think of Apple's Preview.app as a PDF document composer, editor, and configuration program.  It is but a primitive image manipulation mechanism.

 

I thank all of you for your patient and generous assistance.  I see that, 18 minutes ago,  is right on target with what I just rattled on about.  And hey,  , sorry about hijacking your picture along the way.  I admired your remedy!

 

Cheers,

BR

 

 

13 replies

Community Expert
March 26, 2021

Another thought.

 

If you're writing long responses in something like Word and then pasting into the forum, it's possible some behind the scenes Word code is causing the problem.

 

If that's the case the only suggestion I have is to write in Notepad and add formatting, images and links after pasting the plain text in.

Brian_Raila
Inspiring
March 26, 2021

 

Right you are.  I saw your comment just now, while describing my finding.

 

Now, I had basically done just that; adding links after pasting stuff in the forum, and so on.  But as a precaution, I always 

then paste into a text repository of some sort, before hitting Post, cuz just in case, y'know?

 

Well, after the initial failure [of some unknown contaminant], all bets were off.  Cuz from then on, there was scant 'original composition' taking place in forum.

 

And, donchaknow, I'm ready to swear it all comes down to the italics.  All else cleanly transferred, and functioned.  In fact, I'll bet it could be reproduced.

 

Now, beyond that, lies the question of, "Jeesh, the forum oughta' be together enough to filter out dirty Word.app code, and wayward somehow-dirtified italics, right?"  Or, at the very least, not issue a "correct the so-called 'highlighted errors' and try again" over a problem of 'Post flooding'.  I mean, didn't you just say, "try again"?

 

Thanks again, for your contributions.

 

 

Community Expert
March 25, 2021

Testing potential nanny-bot words:

 

Flash

triggering

 

Another thought is there is mention of a link, which maybe caused the block?

Community Expert
March 25, 2021

well, two words I figured might cause a problem with the nannybot were fine. (Although that nanny-bot blocks some terms that have pretty niche slang meanings that I'm not aware of.) 

 

And the example link you posted (to the forums) wouldn't cause a problem. Links to other websites, maybe, depending.

Brian_Raila
Inspiring
March 25, 2021

 

Indeed.

 

Next follows my testing for the usual suspects.  I'll do a series of replies.

 

 

pixxxelschubser
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 25, 2021

 

No.  A full and proper solution is necessary …

 

…or anyone else could investigate this matter for a productive solution …


By @Brian_Raila

 

 

That only can be done by Adobe staff members.

Note: This is a User-to-User-Forum. @Amebr and me are users like you. I can do some moderation. But that's all. Please wait for an answer in the other Thread where I mentioned an Adobe staff member.

 

But I wonder: You can post all these things here. Maybe your problems has to do with a part of your content???

 

And one thing:

Do you have permission from me to post my picture? No you have not.
I'll replace it with your own.

Brian_Raila
Inspiring
March 25, 2021

 

Please accept my sincere apology, pixxxelschubser.  I did not wish, in the least, to offend you.

 

I was making a point about 'plain text' limitations, and simply grabbed the nearest [literally] image at hand.  I regret that I didn't simply find a neutral image of some sort, instead.

 

I continue to find your posts helpful, in sorting this out.  I hope Silvia_CC might have an approach, and hope she's following here.

 

As for my content, that's worth consideration.  The text went through.  There are several links there.

 

I have an idea.  I shall test each non-plain-text component here, one at a time.  By the process of elimination, something should be identified as "not allowable".

 

pixxxelschubser
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 25, 2021

I have extracted the text - without problems.

 

If another (better than me english speaking) member for example @Amebr could give the ok for content - I could replace your "fake text" in the other thread with this.

Brian_Raila
Inspiring
March 25, 2021

 

No.  A full and proper solution is necessary.

 

It is completely inadequate to simply convey 'plain text' in this Forum.  Were that adequate, I'd have done so in the first place.

 

There are compelling reasons why Posts are supposed to support, and users are reliant on:

  • Bullet items
  1. Numbered lists

Formatted text

Web links Amebr

 

Inserted photos, such as .

Inserted video, etc.

 

My post, the one being discussed here, relies on all of the above, some mentioned in my previous reply.

 

If you did not discern such, it is not, at all, the failure of your abilities and skills.  It is a failure due to the inherent limitations of plain text.

 

I would be most appreciative if @Amebr or anyone else could investigate this matter for a productive solution.

 

Vielen dank.

 

– BR

 

 

pixxxelschubser
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 25, 2021

Please try to post the content here in this thread. If that fails - use the code-button [</>] and try to post your content as "code" here in this thread. If that fails - attach a TXT file with your content.

Brian_Raila
Inspiring
March 25, 2021

 

Alrighty.

 

Option 1 [regular old Reply] failed.

 

Here goes attempt as 'Code'; Lanauge HTML/XML:

 

 

 
Hey – good idea!  Here 'tis.  First, as a plain ole, simple Reply, verbatim following next three em dashes:
– – –
 
The following reply was submitted on 3-23-21; delayed by Forum troubleshooting.
======
 
Nice to hear from you Joel!
 
Don’t worry about my feelings regarding your answer.  It’s rather what I fully expected, but had hoped to dodge with the caveat about my awareness of software evolution.  There’s no shortage of folks who echo your recommendation.  Problem is, none have been able to identify an equivalent alternative.  But all that’s a bit of an aside, summarized below.  As for the topic of this post, I know you know your stuff, Joel.  I’m all ears.
 
– – – 
 
On the bigger picture, I’ve a considerable understanding of both the limits to, and the benefits of, my methodology.  I wish not a nit-picky endorsement, nor condemnation, of any given approach.  I’m seeking a solution for a known requirement.
 
I have no need for operation via mobile and/or browser-based Adobe viewers.  And in the Web realm, I would sacrifice attachments, predictable formatting, magnification, and commenting for collaborative revision, never mind logic-managed operation of media. *
 
As for ‘rethinking my solution’, I’ve been rethinking expression by temporal media for more than 50 years.
 
Logic-managed temporal media became practical for me, with the videodisc formats of the 1970s.  I began Web development in ’94, with colleagues from Vermeer’s FrontPage.  I was delighted when Netscape supported images in the same window as HTML text, rather than in a separate region.  I have tracked ColdFusion, InDesign, HTML5, in5, and so on.  All of the above represent hundreds of iterations of embedded multimedia support.  In the present day, nearly all the requirement seems met only by the 27-year development of each Flash, and the PDF.
 
– – – 
 
*  I have worked with time-sharing, host-client systems [e.g. Web browsers], since 1973, and so am keenly aware of the benefits of, but also the intrinsic ephemeral transiency of, computer networks. **
 
In the current era of software expression, have a look at my Play Your Part - As Seen on TV.  The only troubling deficiency is initialization of the file.  It is necessary to first, step manually, through all the pages, to prepare each RMA for any potential triggering.  Once stepped that way, everything works as required,
 
Even Bob Levine finds the document impressive.  As for an alternative solution, he pointed only to in5, for insuring ‘content that is pixel-perfect’ [not –– we need note – dimensionally-perfect], and thus assuring spatial registration [but! –– devoid of temporal registration].
 
I heartily advocate networks for such as addressing a public-health crisis, distribution and exchange of fixed, unchanging data [e.g. daily bank statement], and presentation of singular user-managed temporal expression [e.g. Netflix, Youtube, ABC Sports].  But for management of multiple temporal expressions [e.g. school students, as separate Zoom participants, together reciting The Pledge of Allegiance], networks are intrinsically flawed.
 
– – –
 
**  To wit, here’s a well-intended illustration, of some amusement.
 
Two days ago, I was looking into PDF slide controls having naught to do with media presentation, and came across one of Thom Parker’s posts.
 
There, Thom mentions refers the reader to one of your posts.
 
Recognizing your name, I eagerly went to see what you had to say.
 
I was taken to a page titled “Adobe Log: Page not found”, at this link.
 
– – –
 
As stated, I’m not quibbling endorsement, nor condemnation.  I seek to patch a method which, given that patch, will work flawlessly in achieving the requirement.  When I find one superior, on it I shall pounce.
 
 

 

 

Tried to extract

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Hey – good idea! Here 'tis. First, as a plain ole, simple Reply, verbatim following next three em dashes:
– – –

The following reply was submitted on 3-23-21; delayed by Forum troubleshooting.
======

Nice to hear from you Joel!

Don’t worry about my feelings regarding your answer. It’s rather what I fully expected, but had hoped to dodge with the caveat about my awareness of software evolution. There’s no shortage of folks who echo your recommendation. Problem is, none have been able to identify an equivalent alternative. But all that’s a bit of an aside, summarized below. As for the topic of this post, I know you know your stuff, Joel. I’m all ears.

– – –

On the bigger picture, I’ve a considerable understanding of both the limits to, and the benefits of, my methodology. I wish not a nit-picky endorsement, nor condemnation, of any given approach. I’m seeking a solution for a known requirement.

I have no need for operation via mobile and/or browser-based Adobe viewers. And in the Web realm, I would sacrifice attachments, predictable formatting, magnification, and commenting for collaborative revision, never mind logic-managed operation of media. *

As for ‘rethinking my solution’, I’ve been rethinking expression by temporal media for more than 50 years.

Logic-managed temporal media became practical for me, with the videodisc formats of the 1970s. I began Web development in ’94, with colleagues from Vermeer’s FrontPage. I was delighted when Netscape supported images in the same window as HTML text, rather than in a separate region. I have tracked ColdFusion, InDesign, HTML5, in5, and so on. All of the above represent hundreds of iterations of embedded multimedia support. In the present day, nearly all the requirement seems met only by the 27-year development of each Flash, and the PDF.

– – –

* I have worked with time-sharing, host-client systems [e.g. Web browsers], since 1973, and so am keenly aware of the benefits of, but also the intrinsic ephemeral transiency of, computer networks. **

In the current era of software expression, have a look at my Play Your Part - As Seen on TV. The only troubling deficiency is initialization of the file. It is necessary to first, step manually, through all the pages, to prepare each RMA for any potential triggering. Once stepped that way, everything works as required,

Even Bob Levine finds the document impressive. As for an alternative solution, he pointed only to in5, for insuring ‘content that is pixel-perfect’ [not –– we need note – dimensionally-perfect], and thus assuring spatial registration [but! –– devoid of temporal registration].

I heartily advocate networks for such as addressing a public-health crisis, distribution and exchange of fixed, unchanging data [e.g. daily bank statement], and presentation of singular user-managed temporal expression [e.g. Netflix, Youtube, ABC Sports]. But for management of multiple temporal expressions [e.g. school students, as separate Zoom participants, together reciting The Pledge of Allegiance], networks are intrinsically flawed.

– – –

** To wit, here’s a well-intended illustration, of some amusement.

Two days ago, I was looking into PDF slide controls having naught to do with media presentation, and came across one of Thom Parker’s posts.

There, Thom mentions refers the reader to one of your posts.

Recognizing your name, I eagerly went to see what you had to say.

I was taken to a page titled “Adobe Log: Page not found”, at this link.

– – –

As stated, I’m not quibbling endorsement, nor condemnation. I seek to patch a method which, given that patch, will work flawlessly in achieving the requirement. When I find one superior, on it I shall pounce.

Brian_Raila
Inspiring
March 25, 2021

 

Well, that worked.

 

Its greatest deficiency is absence of essential embedded links, but also formatting, etc.

 

 

pixxxelschubser
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 25, 2021

Hi @Brian_Raila 

What does that mean in concrete terms?

Can you answer now in the other thread?

Or is that not yet possible?

 

I just see your "fake/test answer" there ...

Brian_Raila
Inspiring
March 25, 2021

 

Tried just now.  

Same behavior.

Buttons to Gray, browser progress bar does momentary transit.  No change to Forum page.

 

 

Community Expert
March 25, 2021

Oh and I can see one reply to a reply. If you use any button except the one directly under the original post, it's a reply to a reply and gets a shaded background.

Brian_Raila
Inspiring
March 25, 2021

 

Yes, thanks.  [Chuckle...], I'm starting to get the hang of it.

 

(As for counting so-called 'nesting', you got dat right.)

 

 

Community Expert
March 25, 2021

It doesn't look like you'd be hitting that restriction in the post you list (although with posts with many levels of nesting, it's not easy to tell how nested something is, in my opinion). It was just a thought.

Community Expert
March 24, 2021

Okay I found this thread, that says that at depth 3, only 10 replies are displayed. I feel like that was increased to 25 but I can't find the relevant thread.

 

[CRITICAL BUG] REPLIES ARE DISAPPEARING

 

In any case, possibly you are hitting this restriction with your replies to replies?

Brian_Raila
Inspiring
March 24, 2021

 

Thank you for investigating.

 

But I remain puzzled.  The Original Post Wanting a script to Activate, then Play, an RMA on another page.

 

1)  So, as to counting Depths and Replies, is it not the case that, currently represented there, the count is a Depth of 1, with 4 Replies ?

 

2)  As to your question, am I correct in discerning that my 'replies to replies' is equal to zero ?

 

 

Community Expert
March 24, 2021

I seem to remember there's a restriction with nested replies where after a certain number of nests they no longer appear. But I can't remember exactly the details. I'll see if I can find the details.