P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

@RM Photography the model was not changed.

The issues you see now always existed.

@johnrellis has detailed several methods to improve the chances of success when using Genrative Remove.

Check his posts in this thread.

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@defaultt4hs2n2vd37h: "Generative remove failed. We encountered an issue with your results. Please view our guidelines and try again"

Right, that unhelpful error message is issued in response to trying to apply Generative Remove to a photo that the Firefly service (underlying Generative Remove) thinks violates Adobe's "guidelines".  You can find those guidelines (restrictions) by clicking on the tiny ? button:

Lots of people have complained here that Generative Remove has too many false positives while identifying images that don't comport with the guidelines. Adobe, like the other major AI providers, is scared of the political fallout that would occur if their platforms were used for pornography (especially child pornography) and other "socially harmful" purposes. So they tune their automatic detection algorithms conservatively, erring on the side of too many false positives.

I have a plugin that uses Google Gemini to analyze images, and Gemini also has way too many false positives for pornagraphy. 

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@kenjowen: "really,  really, awful for stars, milky way and aurora replacemnet when i just attempted to remove a power line"

Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

I found this extreme example photo via Google, and Remove did a decent job of removing the power lines and the tower:

@brienr2018: "I tried to remove a person and both set of AI did absolutely nothing."

1. Uncheck Detect Objects -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

@Jess35474710fnty: "Some Remove settings need to be updated"

These symptoms can occur when LR can't write the .lrcat-data file for some reason, either because LR has corrupted it or there is a permissions issue. LR stores computed masks in that file. Try these steps:

1. In LR, do Edit > Catalog Settings > General > Show. That will open Windows File Explorer on the current catalog folder.

2. Exit LR.

3. Move the file <catalog>.lrcat-data to the Desktop.

4. Start LR.

5. In Library Grid view (not Loupe view), select all photos and do Photo > Develop Settings > Update AI Settings. That will recompute all the AI masks, which could take a while.

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@defaultt4hs2n2vd37h: "Could we please either have a bigger more obvious indicator that generative fill is on"

Are you referring to this?

"And why is it only the first object where Adobe says "No, I know better, you wanted to delete *this* area, not the one you actually marked?"  Everything else it appears to process as marked, but not the first."

Uncheck Detect Objects -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

@Alluring_customer15D5: "Can I use photo B as reference photo to use remove tool in photo A? Means the generative AI can generate missing spot same as reality (photo B)."

Generative AI wasn't designed for that. You can use Photoshop's older tools to do it, e.g. 

https://www.google.com/search?q=photoshop+remove+people+from+scene+using+multiple+photographs&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS1064US1064&oq=photoshop+remove+people+from+scene+using+multiple+photographs&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTEwMTUzajBqMqgCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 

Manchmal passiert das wenn man vorher eine Maske gemacht hat die z.B. den Himmel veraendert. Was in dem Fal hilt ist alle Masken zu loeschen und zuerst das Remove tool zu verwenden. Du kannst die Masken vorher kopieren und nach dem Remove tool wieder anwenden, musst also nicht von Vorne anfangen.

@Bill LeTourneau: " "we've encountered an issue and can't complete your request at this time. Please try again later"

That uninformative error message indicates that Generative Remove is unable to contact the Adobe servers. Sometimes firewalls and anti-malware / anti-virus utilities incorrectly block some network requests from LR. Try these troubleshooting steps:

- Temporarily disable all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer. If that solves the problem, then add a specific exclusion for LR to the firewall's rules.

- Connect to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot. Sometimes the routers in these networks block LR's requests, especially in authoritarian countries like China.

@ANMAZO: "Deleting people is not working properly."

Please attach full-resolution screenshots (not phone pics) showing the *entire* LR window with the selection you've made and then the results.