Skip to main content
Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
August 13, 2024
Question

P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

  • August 13, 2024
  • 617 replies
  • 565813 views
This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

Posted by:

617 replies

Participant
February 4, 2025

I cannot modify opacity in the remove menu any longer (IA or not). Cursor has disappeared. This functionality had been existing in previous versions. Very ennoying, for instance I want to lower (but not remove) spots on a face (the person knows he has spots, removing is not acceptable, so I just want to make it more acceptable...)

johnrellis
Legend
February 4, 2025

[This post contains formatting and embedded images that don't appear in email. View the post in your Web browser.]

 

@Yvou73: "I cannot modify opacity in the remove menu any longer (IA or not). Cursor has disappeared."

 

Do you see the Opacity slider after clicking Remove? In LR 14, the slider appears only after you click Remove:

 

If you're seeing the slider but you're unable to move it, 

try resetting LR's preferences:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/articles-page/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/


LR sometimes soils its preferences file, and resetting it can fix all sorts of wonky behavior. That article explains how to restore the old preferences if resetting doesn't help.

Participant
February 4, 2025

Good! Yes, now the slider appears only after clicking on the picture.  Strange new behaviour, but OK for the future. Thank you so much for your answer

Ozzyyz
Participant
February 4, 2025

The REMOVE TOOL is supposed to remove things and make the selected area visually blend to its surrounding. However, it creates variations to similar what is there, e.g., if there is a face it creates another face, if there is a ball it creates another ball. It simply does not remove ! A "Create Variations" tool could also be interesting, but it defeats the purpose of "REMOVE".

johnrellis
Legend
February 4, 2025

@Ozzyyz"it creates variations to similar what is there, e.g., if there is a face it creates another face, if there is a ball it creates another ball. It simply does not remove!"

 

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
February 2, 2025

Overall it's incredible. BUT, with the current version there isn't fade along the edges, so that when used there's a clear outline of the brush after the edit.

johnrellis
Legend
February 2, 2025

Many have observed here that the replacements made by Generative Remove sometimes don't match the photo's tone or noise. To get better matches, these techniques sometimes help:

1. Adobe recommends applying Denoise before Remove. This can reduce the noise, making it more likely the replacement will match.

2. The replacement patch supplied by Adobe Firefly has a maximum size of 2048 x 2048 pixels. If the selected area in the photo is larger than that, then the replacement patch gets upscaled (and blurry). Try removing smaller selections if possible.

3. Make a larger selection, even including the entire background. Upscaling of the replacement sometimes won't be noticeble then.

4. Sometimes there's a distinctly visible boundary where the tone or noise don't match. You can often use the heal tool around the boundary to get better feathering and make it less noticeable -- apply Heal in small brush strokes. Sometimes, making a very raggedy selection around the object makes the boundary less noticeable.

5. For grain/noise in particular, see this post for how to ameliorate the problem by adding the grain back or reducing the grain:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic-amp-lr-eco/m-p/14917497#M382464

Participant
January 29, 2025

It would be very useful to be able to add a prompt eg. remove object 

because sometimes it tries to change it to another thing when actually you are wanting the selected objected to be removed. 

 

johnrellis
Legend
January 30, 2025

@AM34509514d7oj: "sometimes it tries to change it to another thing when actually you are wanting the selected objected to be removed."

 

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
January 27, 2025

Underwhelmed and underimpreseed with the AI removal in LrC. Can't even compare it to the same in PS. Total waste of time and crap. I keep trying to remove a mic stand all the piece of crap AI wants to do is replace it with another mic and stand. It's a total waste of time, crappy apps on my phone do a better job!

johnrellis
Legend
January 27, 2025

@AlpineVideo: "Can't even compare it to the same in PS. ... I keep trying to remove a mic stand all the piece of crap AI wants to do is replace it with another mic and stand. "

 

PS and LR use the same Adobe Firefly algorithm to remove selections, though they have different UIs for making selections.

 

Uncheck Detect Objects, on by default in LR 14, and leave it off -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos. Make sure you've selected any shadows or reflections cast by the mic and stand.

 

If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.  And though others have claimed that PS Generative Remove is superior, no one to date has posted an example photo.

Participating Frequently
January 24, 2025

Where are the three options?   Generative remove still has some flaws in removing.   The removed part leaves a 'shadow' sometimes.

johnrellis
Legend
January 24, 2025

[This post contains formatting and embedded images that don't appear in email. View the post in your Web browser.]

 

@CaroleSD: "Where are the three options?"

 

There are four flavors (modes) of Remove:

 

Clone:

 

Heal:

 

Content-Aware Remove:

 

Generative AI Remove:

 

johnrellis
Legend
January 24, 2025

@CaroleSD: "The removed part leaves a 'shadow' sometimes."

 

There are several possible causes of that:

 

1. After clicking Remove, check that the Opacity slider is 100 -- LR infrequently changes it to something else.

2. If you applied Remove on top of an AI mask (e.g. Sky or Subject mask), do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask.

 

There are other possible causes, but to help with those, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). 

Participant
January 23, 2025

Hello, I was using the Remove Tool with no issues then it stopped working.  Could I have clicked a wrong button that disabled that feature?

 Thanks!

johnrellis
Legend
January 24, 2025

[This post contains formatting and embedded images that don't appear in email. View the post in your Web browser.]

 

@Newbie2025: "I was using the Remove Tool with no issues then it stopped working."

 

Change the Opacity slider to 100:

 

Inspiring
January 23, 2025

I'm so frustrated that gen AI remove is still just terrible sometimes at even vaguely matching the surrounding background pattern. Things like, say, a sky?

 

I know there are workarounds—I've discussed them with folks previously in this thread. But it just seems like such a basic need/requirement for the feature. Local AI-based remove can do it. Please, please get generative AI on board. It's one of the biggest problems with the feature for me in LrC/D/etc.

Participant
January 21, 2025

The ''Remove'' tool sometimes just doesn't remove. It replaces the image with some other genarated creepy stuff.. But i only want to ''Remove'' the stuff, not to replace it with something weird!

johnrellis
Legend
January 21, 2025

@Emre.O: "It replaces the image with some other genarated creepy stuff."

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
January 19, 2025

This does not work as well as photoshop? why?

 

johnrellis
Legend
January 20, 2025

@Hal35668775dy1a: "This does not work as well as photoshop? why?"  Generative Remove in LR uses the same algorithm as in Photoshop. Try unchecking Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't always work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos. 

 

If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot) and call out what's not working in LR but works in PS. With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Known Participant
January 20, 2025

just made a mess of the attached photo.   LR classic.