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January 22, 2023
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people. There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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Florian29065506ij2l

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Sweet lord the remove algorithm is so bad.
Absolutely never works properly even for the simplest tasks (speaking removing a yellow ball in a contrasty background, or a tiny black corner against a blue sky). Just put the photoshop remove algorithm instead because Lightroom's sucks.

johnrellis

Legend

@Florian29065506ij2l, "a tiny black corner against a blue sky"

There a couple of gotchas that might be causing this, which are easy to avoid. See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Gert-Jan258753178qxq

Participant

When removing abjects against a clear, equally colored background (eg a blue sky), it does often not match the present color so the slightly different replaced color stands out against the original color of the background

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Gert-Jan258753178qxq

Participant

excuse me, please ignore my earlier comment, as when creating a mask by auto selecting Sky before removing objects AND using inverted mask of that same sky, again before removing objects, I now understand that all earlier edits counted towards the inverted mask, as at that given moment they were not (yet) part of the Sky.
Now when I changed my sequence on this, removing objects, then selecting Sky and next using and inverted mask for Sky, it is all looking great!

Ian Lyons

Community Expert

Thanks for reporting that you've identified the cause of your issue and revised the order of your edits accordingly.

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SBainbridge

Participating Frequently

Worked great to remove a blown out cloud and fill it in to blend with the other clouds!

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Jan29076768c2o2

Participant

the remove tool works pretty decent when an object has to be removed from te center of the image. but when you want to remove an object that is on the border, it never works. It would be great if this can be implemented better. because a lot of times I want to remove objects that are partially in the frame.

johnrellis

Legend

@Jan29076768c2o2: "when you want to remove an object that is on the border, it never works. "

This happens when there are pixels that have been cropped out due to Crop, Lens Corrections, or Transform. Remove looks at all the pixels of the photo and is generating a replacement that matches those cropped-out pixels. Apply Remove first before those cropping commands.

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Jack32501827kj3s

Participant

Hands down this is a game CHANGER! It took this masterpiece bird photo and removed a significant tree limb encroaching on the subject. I CAN'T even tell where the branch was loacted. 80 to 90% of the time it gets the correction I'm looking for right the first time. Can't thank you enough!

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Annette387858694ds0

Participant

Lightroom: If I want to delete a person or a part of a person Lightroom often places new persons in the picture even if i I try again. I don't see why I should want a new person but it would be nice that at least one of the suggestions is without a person. I think Photoshop does a better job even without instruction ( at least if you try several times, but in Lightroom new people keep coming back)

Ian Lyons

Community Expert

@Annette387858694ds0

Removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

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jessicah89218658

Participant

Dear Adobe...

NEVER EVER is it appropriate to replace someone's hand with a gun. Do better.

Ian Lyons

Community Expert

@jessicah89218658

Removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

ant6867

Participant

They key to me is in the name where I expect a remove not a replace. On abot 50% of ocassions some random 'stuff' gets inserted and have no idea where this has come from. Get the same in photoshop. On other occasions one does get a very good remove. Where there is a lot of plain background a good results is very common and some times on a complex background. But replace seems to be a somewhat random event and pressing refresh seems to make little difference, just get a load more different 'stuff' not a element of neutral background!

johnrellis

Legend

@ant6867: "On abot 50% of ocassions some random 'stuff' gets inserted and have no idea where this has come from. "

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Danny3876213824kn

Participant

great

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Spiderciccio

Participant

on some objects it works really well, on others a little less but it's a big step forward compared to the previous removal tool, however I still prefer the spot healing brush from ps

johnrellis

Legend

@Spiderciccio: "on others a little less"

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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