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July 30, 2021
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Lightroom & Photoshop color doesn't match | same Color Workspace

  • July 30, 2021
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Hi there,

my colors of Lightroom and Photoshop doesn't match. I'm working on both in Adobe RGB and no Color Profiles (Adobe color).
Open file in LR "Edit in PS" and save in Photoshop - the colors have changed dramatically.

Win 10 / x86

LR classic version: 10.3

PS version: 22.4.2 20210602.r.242 a4f6042 x64

ACR version: 13.3.0.807

 

I also add in the Color Management the monitor profile " sRGB IEC61966-2.1 " with "Use my settings" checked and setted it to default (for both monitors). I also added a virtual sRGB version.

But the problem is still there (of course after a newstart every time I changed something).
And ideas? Would be so great, if you could help me!

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    Correct answer kathrins38782390

    I only can see the custom ones...


    Okay now it workes!

     

    1) The Default profiles must stay in Preset folder:

    C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\Settings\Adobe\Presets\Defaults

     

     

     

    2) All the profiles from the Program-Data folder must be copied to

    C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles

     

     

    3) All folders from step 2 copied into this path:

    C:\Users\schie\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles

     

    Now the profiles works in LR and in ACR as well 

     

     

    And I would also like to linkt to this case:

    https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw/adobe-camera-raw-missing-camera-profiles/td-p/10087240

     

    4 replies

    benm27643711
    Participant
    June 7, 2022

    I had one image with a color mismatch between Lightroom and Photoshop.  It was a psd image, and I don't know why or how, but there were some adjustments present to the image in the develop module of LR.  When I reset ACR in LR develop module, the image in LR now matched the PS image.  Simple error.  Something to check before going down the rabbit hole!  Of course this was only a problem with one image, not all of them.

    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    July 30, 2021

    First, you MUST do such comparisons visually in Develop module only at 1:1 or greater, along with Photoshop at the identical zoom ratio. You can't 'zoom out' as each will subsample down differently. 

    If that still provides a mismatch, you can try disabling GPU in one or both applications and check again. 

    If that still doesn't work, I agree; it is your display profile. 

    Recalibrate and build a new ICC display profile, the old one might be corrupted.
    If you are using software/hardware for this task, be sure the software is set to build a matrix not LUT profile, Version 2 not Version 4 profile.
    If turning OFF GPU works, it's a GPU bug and you need to contact the manufacturer or find out if there's an updated driver for it. 
    Also see: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/acr-gpu-faq.html

    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    Inspiring
    July 30, 2021

    Okay,


    GPU - no difference (color is different)

    • I disabled the GPU in Lightroom first (restart LR & PS)
    • I enabled the GPU in Lightroom and disabled in PS (restart LR & PS)
    • I turned the GPU off in LR & PS (restart both)


    100% View 1:1 - color ist different and also the histogram

    left is the RAW |  right is RAW opend in PS and saved

     

    Monitor Calibration

    • Monitor was calibrated in the morning (Eizo CS2420 with ColorNavigator 7, ICC Profile Matrix v4.2, SpyderPro 5)

    • deleted the color Management profiles
    • set color management profiles of boths (laptop monitor & Eizo) to sRGB IEC61966-2 (restarted LR & PS - no change)
    • after deleting custom profiles I  calibrated again (Eizo CS2420 with ColorNavigator 7, ICC Profile Matrix v4.2, SpyderPro 5) - no difference, color change still there

     

    Bridge / LR / PS

    • Colors of the RAW + PSD-file in Bridge looks the same, as in Photoshop and as the psd-file in LR
    • Only the LR RAW file looks different in color & histogram
    • Softproof in LR (sRGB, Adobe RGB, P3 = everything looks identical, no difference in the view, other self installed profiles work)

    This is the psd + raw view in Bridge

     

    Again, left is psd-file in LR | right the RAW in Lightroom

    Histogram in Lightroom: left the psd in LR (more greenish) - right histogram RAW in LR (warmer)

     

     

    Do you have any other ideas?

    I do work with Win 10..

     

     

     

    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    July 30, 2021

    The histograms not useful, they will always mismatch due to how LR draws it's Histogram and based on the underlying color space you're not using in Photoshop. 

    The screen captures you are showing of the two girls; they were made when previewed at 1:1/100%?

    Would it be possible for you to upload (to maybe Dropbox or similar), a DNG you save out of LR with your edits so we can view in Lightroom Classic, then render  out and view in Photoshop? 

    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    josephlavine
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    July 30, 2021

    You cannot set the Color Space in Lightroom as you can in Photoshop. The Library Modules uses Adobe RGB, and the Develop Modules uses soemthing very similar to ProPhoto RGB (Melissa RGB), which is a reason why things don't always match.

    warmly/j

    D Fosse
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    July 30, 2021

    No, that's not the reason if they don't match. These applications are fully color managed, which means any profile, any color space, will be correctly represented. And if they are all correct, they will obviously be identical.

     

    For the same reason, there is no need to "match" Lightroom and Photoshop, even if it were possible (which it isn't).

     

    Usually a mismatch is a symptom of a defective monitor profile. That can affect applications differently. It all ends up in the same monitor profile, but if the source data are different, the math is different, and it may work in one but fail in another.

     

    But in this case, I suspect the OP is using a custom/third-party camera profile in Lightroom. There is a bug in Lightroom that prevents these profiles from being correctly transferred to ACR > Photoshop, and so it comes into Photoshop looking differently. If this is it, try with the standard/native camera profiles (Adobe Color etc). These profiles are not affected by this bug.

     

    Oh, and kathrins, don't touch the "virtual device" profiles in Windows. Leave them alone. They are not icc-spec profiles, and they have a different purpose. The one you want is sRGB IEC61966-2.1, and only that.

    Inspiring
    July 30, 2021

    Hi,

     

    I'm using the camera profile Adobe color as described above... Could there be a hidden embedded profile anywhere?

    Ged_Traynor
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    July 30, 2021

    Moving thread to the Photoshop ecosystem forum from Using the Community