Human faces and humans in general deteriorating in FF 3

[AlanGilbertson]

Recently, rendering of faces in FF seems to have gone sharply downhill, a kind of "giant leap backwards" to more primitive days.

I was testing an innocuous prompt ("Native Americans on horseback, prairie scene") and got some quite disturbing and grotesque "humans" with faces reminiscent of the earliest iterations of FF. I was interested to note that FF web app, Photoshop's Generate Image, and Generative Fill all returned heavily distorted human figures, but Generate on Adobe Stock returned images that were at least not actively offensive. Using "Art" rather than "Photo" improved results in all cases.

This is also the first time I can recall getting results that were actually disturbing to look at. I spend most of the test session giving negative feedback. FF has never been flawless rendering human figures, but I haven't seen anything quite as bad as this in a long while.

[Oh.N8]

@AlanGilbertson 
Ya, now that you mentioned it. FF human faces have become a bit distorted. Art does seem to help. However, that seems a bit questionable. 

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hi @AlanGilbertson,

The product team knows about this issue and is working on a fix. Sorry for the issue!

Thanks,
Kevin

[AlanGilbertson]

Thanks, @Kevin-Monahan. This is good to know, because it impacts quite a few products at this point and MAX is racing toward us at 60 min/hr.

[Kevin-Monahan]

Sorry for the frustration, my friend.

Kevin

[AlanGilbertson]

@Kevin-Monahan A possibly related point worth passing on to the team is that jpeg artifacts have been on the rise for a couple of months. I have tests from June that show high levels of detail and only minor compression artifacts, while recent results are heavily artifacted, enough that it takes two passes through the JPEG Artifacts Removal Neural Filter to bring it to a reasonable level. This also explains the crunchy, oversharpened appearance of high frequency data in recent FF images. Here's a before-and-after from late July that shows the artifact problem clearly. The "after" is the result of two passes through the filter set to "High." Notice how even the background cleans up and appears to get lighter.

[droopydog500]

I have tests from June that show high levels of detail and only minor compression artifacts, while recent results are heavily artifacted, enough that it takes two passes through the JPEG Artifacts Removal Neural Filter to bring it to a reasonable level.

THIS!

[Kevin-Monahan]

Recently, rendering of faces in FF seems to have gone sharply downhill, a kind of "giant leap backwards" to more primitive days.

By @AlanGilbertson

Will do that, my friend. Thanks for the feedback.

Kevin

[Esteban Dario Grinbank]

I don't know what's going on, but lately in the images generated where several people are requested, their faces and hands come out absolutely deformed. It's horrible!

[mydogminton]

This was from two months ago but it still seems to be a significant problem.  It's making FF pretty much unusable for me. Will we be getting a refund?  Or an urgent fix?

[mydogminton]

Yeah, major problem with human faces if they're not close up. Of you do a head/shoulders portrait it still seems fine. Not that that helps you.

[Esteban Dario Grinbank]

Exactly! Maybe the best thing is post-processing in Photoshop, who knows,
obviously we are in the test after test stage...

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[Siddalingayya]