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How to access the Tilde key with a French Keyboard?

Guide ,
Feb 02, 2018 Feb 02, 2018

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In Illustrator, "Tilde" key ~ seems to have some magical power:

According to Adobe's site, it can "transform pattern (independent of object) when using Selection tool, Scale tool, Reflect tool, or Shear tool". 

Sounds great! I wish I could play around with it, but... I use a French keyboard. No such key on my keyboard.

azerty-qwerty[1].jpg

² key is not working. And to access the tilde character, I must combine alt + é/2 keys, which obviously results to a duplication of the selected object.

I know I could change my keyboard through the Windows regional settings, but maybe there's another way.

Maybe this key is hidden somewhere, or maybe I could change it through the keyboard shortcuts menu. 

Any help appreciated.

Specs: CS6 - Windows 7

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Feb 02, 2018 Feb 02, 2018

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It's not always the tilde key. On German keyboards it's the < resp the Ö

So you might want to just search around your keyboard.

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Guide ,
Feb 02, 2018 Feb 02, 2018

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Hey Monika

As a matter of fact, I did try every key, with no luck...

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Feb 02, 2018 Feb 02, 2018

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Vinny,

Maybe too silly, but will you try once again the £ (Caps), just to the left of the Entrée key on the AZERTY keyboard?

That is the character on a French Mac keyboard with the same function as the ~ Tilde.

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Guide ,
Feb 05, 2018 Feb 05, 2018

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Nothing is too silly...

I've tried the £ key again, with no luck.

As far as I understand the Tilde key, it can do several things.

It can be used for repeating shapes, just like this:

43-Illustrator-The-Tilde-Trick.jpg

That can in fact be done with a french keyboard using the key.jpgkey.

The other function, the one I'm wondering if it can be achieved with my keyboard is moving a pattern inside its container object.

Like this:

Rki3O.gif

Mystery still unsolved

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 05, 2018 Feb 05, 2018

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That moving pattern inside object works in some other languages, but not all. And it depends on the system. On German Windows systems for example you can't take it for granted.

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Guide ,
Feb 05, 2018 Feb 05, 2018

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I see... I'm starting to think the only way to access the function is to virtually change the keyboard.

I'll keep investigate but I'm afraid this is hopeless.

If some Adobe Staff is reading this thread, can he/she note that We aren't all Americans! (yet)

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Feb 05, 2018 Feb 05, 2018

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It's the keyboard, the keyboard language, the system language and the Illustrator language all playing together.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 05, 2018 Feb 05, 2018

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Vinny,

Thank you for the added knowledge.

The Tilde (partial) replacement key %/ù you mention in your post #8 is on the AZERTY keyboard, Is there a key that works the same on the French QWERTY keyboard?

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Guide ,
Feb 05, 2018 Feb 05, 2018

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Jacob

As far as I know, there is no such thing as a French QWERTY keyboard.

French standard is AZERTY.

Both Tilde and back-stick characters are only accessible while holding AltGr key, which results to a duplication of the selected object. (most exactly it produces the same result than Ctrl + Alt combination, but you know that)

Maybe there's a way somehow to disable AltGr duplication behavior, but I couldn't find it.

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Feb 05, 2018 Feb 05, 2018

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Vinny,

As far as I know, there is no such thing as a French QWERTY keyboard.

I was fooled by the French labels on the first (QWERTY) keyboard shown in your OP (original post), they look just like the ones on the second (AZERTY) keyboard, Entrée and the ones to the right.

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Feb 02, 2018 Feb 02, 2018

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vinny38  schrieb

Hey Monika

As a matter of fact, I did try every key, with no luck...

Is the Illustrator version also in French?

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Guide ,
Feb 04, 2018 Feb 04, 2018

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Yes Monika. It's a French version

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LEGEND ,
Feb 02, 2018 Feb 02, 2018

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Surely not Alt+é but AltGr+é.

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Guide ,
Feb 02, 2018 Feb 02, 2018

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Right, not Alt but AltGr, my mistake.

However both Alt and AltGr duplicate the object.

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New Here ,
Nov 14, 2018 Nov 14, 2018

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So I have a french-Canadian QWERTY keyboard, live in Quebec.. I am able to move patterns within and object with both selection and direct selection tool and alt+the u accent to the left of the z, when I  press shift and that same letter I get the Tilde ~......Hope this helps

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Guide ,
Nov 15, 2018 Nov 15, 2018

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Thanks for your suggestion, unfortunately not working with an AZERTY keyboard...

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 15, 2018 Nov 15, 2018

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Please post this on http://illustrator.uservoice.com

There the engineers will read it. And they are the only ones who can fix it.

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Advocate ,
Nov 15, 2018 Nov 15, 2018

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Have you tried typing Ctrl + Shift + 2 (pressing all of these keys at the same time)?

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Nov 15, 2018 Nov 15, 2018

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meganchi  schrieb

Have you tried typing Ctrl + Shift + 2 (pressing all of these keys at the same time)?

In this case you need the tilde as a modifier key. And then this shortcut won't work.

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New Here ,
Jan 11, 2019 Jan 11, 2019

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I found !!!! Key combination AltGr + ù. It works perfectly

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Guide ,
Jan 14, 2019 Jan 14, 2019

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Hi there,

Thanks for trying to solve out this old problem, but again, this just can't work...

If you hold down AltGr,  this will duplicate the object...

For what it's worth, I think the "tilde" trick is badly named.

It should be named "backstick" trick, since it's actually the backstick key that is held on a Qwerty keyboard...

I gave up on this one, and when I have to move a pattern, I just use the transform tool:

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 14, 2019 Jan 14, 2019

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To everyone in this thread who wants this solved: please add your vote:

A hotkey to make the Transform tool only transform fill patterns. – Adobe Illustrator Feedback

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New Here ,
Jan 14, 2019 Jan 14, 2019

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Hello, I'm sorry to insist but the key "ù" works even without using the key "AltGr"Video_2019-01-15_033917.gif

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Guide ,
Jan 14, 2019 Jan 14, 2019

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Hi Doms64

You are right, the ù key works as a replacement for the tilde/backstick key to draw this kind of repeating pattern.

But it doesn't when it comes to transform pattern inside an object. This is what this is all about....

Cheers anyway

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